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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Misgendered and violent

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yiskasha · 28/12/2018 19:04

I know it's from the Daily Mail, but I can't find anyone else reporting on it. I've never seen a woman tell a man to "take it outside" or aggressively kick a display down because they've accidentally been called "sir"... (hope the link works).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/05/2019 20:01

Video in the penis news article

Erythronium · 29/05/2019 20:10

Those security guards/bouncers have obviously been briefed to stop the naughty lesbians from getting to the head of the Pride march. They've probably been told they can use physical force to prevent it from happening, so no wristband now means being wrestled to the ground. What they'd like to do to women who step out of line, but this guy will do in the meantime.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 29/05/2019 20:15

They did proper squish him, despite him being annoying. I'm not sure what they quite expected him to do.... cover them in glitter?

theOtherPamAyres · 29/05/2019 21:14

I'm thinking allowed - don't mind me but that word misgendered is getting on my chesticles.

Misgendered is trans-speak or woke-speak.

It calls for punishment against those people who:

Refer to a man as a man
Use the correct pronouns for the male sex

It is a form of control and dominance and for that reason I will not be forced to lie. I will not submit. I am not cis. Feck off with your fake offence of misgendering, mate.

Carry on.

EverardDigby · 29/05/2019 21:40

My interpretation is seeing someone who probably has some sort of mental health condition being restrained by people who probably have inadequate training. I found it a bit distressing though and didn't watch all of it. But then behind lots of the aggressiveness and posturing we know that mental health conditions and trauma are linked with gender dysphoria so that's not surprising.

Redshoeblueshoe · 29/05/2019 23:12

Chesticles Grin

Chiochan · 29/05/2019 23:49

I was misgendered in PC world today (first time ever) by the security guard. We both had a right old giggle.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/05/2019 11:40

Oh stop it! Armed police for people who don't buy tickets. Twat!

I saw a man who wlikely has numerous issues asked to leave a 'ticketed' area of Pride. I saw bemused and worried looking security try to usher him away, on first contact he threw himself towards the ground shouting as though he were being murdered. Then decided he could make more of a point if went the political route and start shouting about profit before people. I did like the security guy's response to that...

I heard the person filming sound distressed, and then decide it was police brutality.

I saw more security try to restrain the man without actually touching him or breaking his phone - yes they need more training, sod the phone!

Then I heard that line about armed police for people without tickets.

Fucking idiot! He should be ashamed. PN should be ashamed they carried it without giving more room to the fact hat he was being a twat and was a gatecrasher.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 30/05/2019 11:41

*They did proper squish him I doubt he evne grazed his knees. If he had carried his own weight and stopped dropping to the floor he wouldn't have made such a fuss and they wouldn't have needed more people.

He acted like a toddler who doesn't want to go out in the rain!

LittleDoll · 31/05/2019 00:42

My partner has a female identity and would not behave this way in "girl mode".

LittleDoll · 31/05/2019 00:43

In fact I've used the wrong label for the wrong person and we made a joke of it. This kind of person would find something g else to behave the exact same way about if it weren't the trans thing.

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 31/05/2019 04:33

My partner has a female identity and would not behave this way in "girl mode

Wow, wish I could identify in and out of being a "girl".

Or, presumably your partner being an adult "woman".

KatvonHostileExtremist · 31/05/2019 08:48

"Help help I'm being oppressed"

FloralBunting · 31/05/2019 08:54

Help help I'm being oppressed

"Witness the violence inherent in the system!!"

I have such a soft spot for Python.

FermatsTheorem · 31/05/2019 09:00

I've heard the term "girl mode" before, and honestly, what a fucking offensive term for part time cross dressing. Give me an honestly in your face misogynistic drag act on the northern club circuit any day. At least then they're being honest about belittling women, and it's so in your face you know to fight back. None of this dress-it-up-in-woke-speak shit to get daft young women to play along with their own humiliation.

Trust me as an old gimmer - one day you will look back on this piece of your life and recognise this person as a narcissistic, self absorbed twunt.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 31/05/2019 09:05

My partner has a female identity and would not behave this way in "girl mode".

Does he respect women’s single-sex spaces & stay out of them, even when in costume?

AlwaysComingHome · 31/05/2019 09:07

‘Girl mode’ sounds like something from manga/anime, like ‘autistic mode’ in Ghosts in the Shell

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Autistic%20mode

EmpressLesbianInChair · 31/05/2019 09:30

I don't like the phrase 'girl mode' either. I think Eddie Izzard uses it for when he's in heels & makeup.

But I also think the decent ones, however they're presenting at the time, even if their friends say it's OK, will stay out of women's toilets & changing rooms because they'll recognise that their presence may make women uncomfortable and also that if they're in there, it makes it easier for other men to come in too.

terryleather · 31/05/2019 09:40

Agree, the term girl mode is ridiculous...worse is en femme which gives me the radge/boak in equal measure.
I prefer the term LARPing.

AlwaysComingHome · 31/05/2019 09:44

I prefer the term LARPing.

At a time where there appears to be a war on women, I prefer ‘stolen valour’.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005

LittleDoll · 31/05/2019 10:57

I'll call it what I want lol

bettybeans · 31/05/2019 11:24

Does "girl mode" basically mean putting a dress and make up on?

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 31/05/2019 11:49

I'd say I'll call it what I want roughly sums up the attitude of the woke.

I'll do say enter what or where I want because it's my choice and that is the most important thing in the world.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 31/05/2019 11:55

8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

Here's to TheBewilderness. Wine

Hamster00 · 31/05/2019 12:18

My partner has a female identity

What's a female identity? Can you clarify that without resorting to hackneyed and trite stereotypes? Being transsexual, I've never had a "female identity", only my OWN identity. Surely having a "female identity" is just appropriation? Just curious what a female identity actually is.....

and would not behave this way in "girl mode"
You realise how offensive that phrase is to women right? Not only does it sound infantilising but it's demeaning to the lived experiences of women. It's misogynistic, ridiculous and sounds akin to putting on 'womanface'

Being a woman/girl is not something you can put on and take off like a costume - because no matter how many dresses they wear or how much makeup they put on, they can never change sex and actually BE a woman/girl.

Saying that - there's absolutely nothing wrong with crossdressing or mucking around with gender stereotypes, as long as you're not infringing on the rights of others (or causing offense) while doing it.

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