Jeremy Corbyn just called Theresa May "stupid woman"

[Bejazzled]

And he did it with the most derogatory angry expression on his face.

FFS

The amount of homeless people has gone up tenfold since even last year, it's a disgrace. I know which party is doing more to tackle that, and yet people are on here ripping apart JC for calling her a stupid woman. What's more of a priority?

As has been said numerous times people can care about more than one thing at a time.

Once again with the idiotic polarising of views!

It is possible to think JC a sexist pig AND TM a hopeless PM. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

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Parliament is full of stupid men and eomen these days

Getting away from all what's going on. The House of Commons has a protocol set in stone the fact that JC has such contempt for the House never mind May is very disturbing. The language and protocol keeps the debates civilised. From where ever you stand this is disturbing and a dangerous sign.

I'm a Corbyn supporter - but this has upset me a lot. He definitely said it. I don't know if I can continue to trust him.

Theresa May doesn't get a get out of jail free pass because the leader of the opposition is doing a poor job of opposing.

But does that make him calling her a stupid woman and then lying about it OK? Of course not. He's always been a terrorist apologist/anti semite/mysogynist. Just that his mask slipped a bit further today.

Of course you can care for more than one thing at a time. I don't care if JC said stupid people or stupid woman. Both are accurate, and if all people can talk about tonight is if JC is a misogynist then it's letting this awful government and Theresa May off the hook for everything they're doing that's destroying our society and playing right into their hands. I'd say it's idiotic not to see that.

Why can't Jeremy Corbin attack Theresa May's policies without resorting to personal insults?

Had he muttered 'stupid policies' under his breath, I would have agreed with him.

And anyone that equates caring about whether or not he said stupid woman or stupid people with the amount of homelessness in the UK and people freezing to death on the streets, people starving and having to rely on food banks, women not being able to leave violent men because of austerity, needs to re-evaluate their priorities.

Aristaeus76

Ok. I've just watched the incident for the first time. He clearly said people. It's not even remotely unambiguous. Unless there is another clip from a different angle that I haven't seen, I can't see how this is even up for debate

Same here. There is no pouting then opening the lips to make the "wuh" sound in woman but itsnt the clearest . And the second part is much more clearly "pull" as in people.

I thought that myself all day but wanted to check friend who teaches lipreading in the States and she agrees and said Glennie et al may have seen a different angle. She also says there are always differences of opinion with lipreaders and those that lost hearing rather than were born deaf are often better lipreaders as are more able to read mumbles and regional accents.

Enjoy the distraction from actual politics kids as the country goes down the Swannee.

This is getting a bit like That Stripey Dress now.

Woman/people blue/gold.
People's perceptions aren't always accurate. But yet the column inches, the tweets, the memes. . . oh what fun we can have.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/793801/David-Mundell-Twitter-accused-of-bad-mouthed-outburst-Yvette-Cooper-MP

Here's another one for all you lip readers out there.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/universal-credit-mum-forced-sleep-13749207?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR1cr9ihrdm0NyPNbJOubhyJXkscVrQTR3uucY_S3N3zvEpmBxep6ID8hXw

"Helmet do you understand how people can be annoyed with what Corbyn said AND be critical of TM too?"

Is that why this thread is up to nearly 500 posts within 24 hours and the thread about the Parlimentry hearing on Universal Credit isnt yet 20 posts long and that was posted back in October.

So: was the dress blue-and-black, or was it white-and-gold?

It was both depending on what device you viewed it on and whether or not you were tired at the time.

Teresa May and Jeremy Corbyn both appear to be horribly weak persons and puppets.

could not vote for either party at the moment, Or the LibDems, Plaid Cymru, SNP....
Lots of us are currently disenfranchised.

Personally, I just don't believe that JC is a very nice person.

I really struggle with pedestal he seems to have been placed on.

I can't see (or can find) evidence of him embracing any cause other than that which self served his "rebellious" back bencher persona. A "rebel" without a clue how to actually govern a nation.

He comes across, to me, as cold and deeply egotistical.

Years of being a "fringe" MP then being catapulted to leader (by a series of miscalculations) seem to make him feel validated for his previous stances.

He's not a leader of his own party (wrt to a lot of MP's who are biding their time, or actively plotting to get rid) let alone a leader for the country.

I've always been left wing, but my goodness pigs will fly before I vote Labour again (I resigned my party membership last year) whilst he's leader.

I'm politically homeless and it's bloody annoying when I hear the woke brigade laude JC for his ethics, when for my part I simply see him as the "flip side" of Jacob Rees-Mogg (whose views and arrogance I find equally abhorrent).

I really can’t see how I can vote for anyone next time. Jeremy Corbyn is just a racist, sexist old man, and doesn’t represents me at all.

Which doesn’t leave many alternatives. I’ve always thought I should use my vote but at the moment it’s hard to know how. Even, voting solely on local issues, I’m struggling.

Yeah, I think a lot of us are in the same "none of the above thanks" boat in terms of who to vote for.

I am hearing impaired and lip read a lot and that was clearly woman to me.

I'm politically homeless and it's bloody annoying when I hear the woke brigade laude JC for his ethics, when for my part I simply see him as the "flip side" of Jacob Rees-Mogg (whose views and arrogance I find equally abhorrent)
That's an interesting point.
I don't think he is doing A good job as leader at all.

For me it comes back to this, personal attacks are not ok in the House of Commons
DH and I both express much worse views on Theresa May. Based on this thread that stupid woman is misogynist, DH and I can express the same sentiment on her and it would be fine for me to say something, but not DH because he is male.

Then again if you want to be really cynical, Corbyn wants out of the EU and probably knew that doing something like this would get people frothing & fill the papers... and whilst people are frothing about this, Brexit policy issues can be swept aside.

The most he will do is throw shadows at you, but he always said woman to me.

Is it called Stupidwoman-gate yet?

I think Corbyn’s a disaster for the Labour Party, and I just can’t see the outrage about this. He shouldn’t have said whatever he said -but even people in his position are entitled to an moment of exasperation, surely? And everyone is playing Into to the Tory’s hands by allowing this incredibly trivial incident to completely derail the political discourse, which should be about Brexit, and both parties’ complete incompetence in the face of the most significant national event for generations. There are loads of legitimate criticisms of Corbyn to be made- let’s not waste time on trivialities.