10 year old boy dances on stage at adult gay bar for money.

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I feel so sad for this child.

www.dangerous.com/49809/half-naked-10-year-old-boy-dances-on-stage-for-money-at-adult-gay-bar-in-new-york/

Jeez it’s really abou5 a wee boy who should be playing with his mates
I looked at his insta feed
Ffs what are his parents thinking
They have to actually pare5 their boy
It’s all so# sleazy
Just sleazy and sexual

personally I have the impression that people who talk like the person in the article try to describe their attraction to either animals or children without outing themselves. But then, I‘m a cynic—

Personally I have the impression that people who talk like the person in the article actually have relationships with a considerably less diverse group of people than the "ordinary people" do.

"Ordinary people" have relationships with short, fat, dumpy people ; people with bad skin ; people with poor dress sense ; bald people; people lacking confidence ;people who don't understand "art"; people who don't travel; people who don't eat organic food; people who buy their clothes from Marks&Spencers; people who don't know how to pronounce "quinoa".

I doubt this person would give any of these ordinary people a second glance or thought.

Obviously no disrespect is intended to anyone who "identifies" as one of the ordinary people.

I assumed pan sexual meant any thing goes: animals, dolls, hoover nozzles, hole in a wall....
Quite a relief that it is a bit more limited in range.

Captain jack in torchwood was pan sexual so man woman alien i guess he just felt the vibe and went with it 😁

He was also gorgeous.

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I mean, I suppose I could say that I love my fancy tri-ply pans with the copper layer but I don't love them, you know, that way...

You can if you want you know. No one will judge you!

I understand the Eiffel Tower and the Golden Gate Bridge are married - and I don't mean to each other.

The Cosmo article is quite bonkers interesting
it continues:
"Gender is just not a thing that comes into it at all for me as this overall 'picture' of the person is what creates the attraction. I believe that there are more than two genders and that gender works along a spectrum. My attraction spans the entire spectrum and my brain just does not divide people up into categories.

I don't know if this is just a pan thing or if it's even related, but I am especially attracted to people who are androgynous, non-binary, gender fluid and trans. This is not to say that bi people don't experience all of the above, too.

1. We don't only fancy people based on their personality

There's a word for that: demisexual (when you only ever experience attraction to others after getting to know them).

I fully believe that you can be a shallow-ass person when it comes to looks (I know I am!) and still be fiercely pansexual.

1. Pan/poly/gender fluid are NOT "all the same thing"

These are all very different things. 'Pan' refers to sexuality - who you're attracted to.

'Poly' (or polyamorous, as opposed to monogamous) refers to the types of relationships you have - are you happier committing to just one person at a time or do you feel more comfortable having more than one relationship at once? This doesn’t mean you have to actively date multiple people all of the time, it just means that you have the capacity to love more than one person at once. Which is lovely, really.

'Gender fluid' refers to a person's own gender identity and comes from within - this is about how they 'feel' they fit into the social notion of gender. If you’re genderfluid, you may well feel like you identify with a mix of many genders at once, or maybe your experience of your own gender might fluctuate from day to day.

1. Pansexuals are not "confused"

Okay, stop right there, hun. As humans, we all know who we are internally and I've always had a strong sense of that. I knew from a very, very young age who I was attracted to and how I was attracted to them. I never grew up questioning my sexuality or feeling confused - I just knew.

1. Being pansexual does not mean you have sex with frying pans

Seriously. The number of people that ask me that is ridiculous. You're not smart and you're not funny."

what has happened to editors?

The advert for chocolate ice cream burgers under the article was pretty riveting. 😛

My 11 year old son and his friend were asking what all the different letters were.

I told him pan sexuals were interested in anything with a pulse.

Queer was when you were basically ordinary but wanted to sound interesting

Asexual was where you probably preferred a cup of tea.

He decided that, as he was 12 and really wasnt interested in any of it (because he is TWELVE) he's probably opt for the last one.

I cant imagine thinking it was OK to take my lad - skinny odd autistic dancer that he is, and parade him about like some sort of showpony to be gawped at sexually. Even if he loved dressing up and singing. He wouldnt know, at 8 or 10, how to meet these people, how to get on TV, how to set up hook ups with RuPaul. He wouldnt be emailing and writing and fixing. This is 100% down to the parents

Is it because posters here are sensitive to it or is there genuinely a sustained assault on safeguarding that is taking place on multiple fronts and in many countries?

Arran although it does feel a bit tinfoil-hatty, I agree. I think there is. I don’t think it’s necessarily an organised attack on safeguarding but I cannot see anyone apart from feminists who are looking at the bigger picture here, putting bits of the puzzle together and saying oh fuck no, and pushing back. It is such a short step between some of the current trans activist big names and some deeply unsavoury predilections and chosen cause to champion. Extreme porn, furries, adult babies, anime porn, breaking down safeguarding, isolating often vulnerable children from support, trying to make people feel uncomfortable about asking questions because BIGOT. The sheer spread of influence they have is terrifying when you join the dots.

The club kids documentary was horrific it was on late one night years ago on ch4 it certainly wasn't cutesy it was drugs/sex/drugs/sex... oh and fighting

Was it ?

RuPaul is listed as a Club Kids member on Wiki. I'm wondering if one or both of Desmond's parents were involved in this scene in their youth.

I'm wondering if one or both of Desmond's parents were involved in this scene in their youth.

I'm guessing they just wanted to be.

The club kids documentary was horrific it was on late one night years ago on ch4 it certainly wasn't cutesy it was drugs/sex/drugs/sex... oh and fighting

Just watched it. What a bunch of truly vile and worthless people.

He was also gorgeous
Captain jack was very handsome

Are you saying you don't believe he is?

No, I'm saying the opposite. Hence why I said 'why did we not see that one coming?'

There is a strong link between autism in young people and confusion over gender identity and his parents seem only to happy to push/exploit this in their son. I meant that now I know he has autism I am less surprised by the whole sordid thing.

The clubkids documentary is just depressing isn't it?

The sexual undertone is also disturbing as i said I watched it years ago but they just all seemed turned on all the time

The sexual undertone is no big deal to me as long as everyone involved is an adult.

Take drugs, get into avant garde fashion, try and sell your art, run nightclubs, fuck your way to the top of your little social circle , fill your boots whatever, just keep kids out of it.

Yes on both counts.

Thanks for that link Pencils - it sent me on quite a macabre internet rabbit-hole. What struck me the most from reading about the Club Kids was that none of them cared one of their 'friends' was murdered, and none of them cared who did it. The callousness of finding it funny, laughing about wearing the dead man's boots, taking the piss out of how uncool the victim was, spending his money, boasting about what happened. Ya know, this is one of those very rare occasions where it feels appropriate to name something as evil.

Anyway, I digress... Point is a) one or both of the kid's parents being a club kid sounds and an interesting and plausible theory, and b) cannot believe that little boy was interviewed by a convicted murderer