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10 year old boy dances on stage at adult gay bar for money.

186 replies

Iused2BanOptimist · 16/12/2018 13:48

I feel so sad for this child.

www.dangerous.com/49809/half-naked-10-year-old-boy-dances-on-stage-for-money-at-adult-gay-bar-in-new-york/

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MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 17:31

I don't doubt you flying I totally think you are right

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 17:35

Oh right slowly i thought he was doing wiping away not pretend snorting still why is he exposed to this he remi ds me of somebodies pet

SlowlyShrinking · 16/12/2018 17:37

Yes, there’s no good reason for him to be involved in this very adult world is there? I wonder if there’s any involvement from child services? He needs to be protected

HomeStar · 16/12/2018 17:39

Have you got any examples flyingdragon?

With the weirdness surrounding the JY case in Canada and the way so much coverage of it has been disappeared off the Internet, I'm more open-minded than I once was about pedophile-related "conspiracy theories."

Terfing · 16/12/2018 17:39

Please, I want to do something to help this child. Who can we report this to?

OrchidInTheSun · 16/12/2018 17:47

He has a website: desmondisamazing.com

I have reported his parents to the NYPD but they didn't reply. That ketamine video really worried me. But apart from that, he is a child being primped and pimped for adult amusement. He is a gay activist apparently and the darling of New York Pride.

He is 10 years' old. Can you imagine the furore if a 10 year old girl was the darling of Pride or some heterosexual celebration (can't think of anything but you know what I mean). It's so fucked up

OrchidInTheSun · 16/12/2018 17:49

It's just child exploitation basically. But then I think a lot of child youtube stars are also being exploited by their parents

SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 17:52

He has an Instagram account, and some of the photos from that night are on it.

instagram.com/desmondisamazing?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=15ts93z7q3m9

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 17:57

How can little kids understand what is happeni g to them they don't know what a pride icon is never mind be one. I was talking tomy friends 11 year old son yesterday he was telling me about his xbox game and how hisdog walked in front of it and farted . Then there is littlr boys with false eyelashes talking about his rights to be a drag kid it just isnt right

QuietContraryMary · 16/12/2018 18:00

"This is about the sexualisation of children.
Nothing to do with trans"

Well yes, and no.

He identifies as a gay male, and is pimped out to this culture.

www.out.com/interviews/2017/10/11/10-year-old-drag-superstar-desmond-napoles-his-mom-talk-coming-out

However despite his mother's openness to him being trans, he says he is not.

"Wendylou: We talked about it actually. In fact, when he was younger, we thought that maybe he was trans because of his strong preference for girls’ toys and wearing girls’ clothes. And even then we thought, well if that’s the case, maybe we should just let that alone and not discourage it... or encourage it [and] just let it happen. Also, we thought, maybe it’s just a phase and it would change, but then once he started telling us that he had crushes on boys and that he thought he could be gay, that was like, Okay, that’s alright. It wasn’t anything like a whole drawn out conversation.

And what about transness? You don’t feel you're trans, Desmond?

Desmond: shakes head no."

Desmond says

"Desmond: My school doesn’t have any gays, but I have friends online like Sparkles, Pink Sasss, and CJ Stardust."

I disagree very strongly that this has nothing to do with trans, as it's the same 'so woke your brains fall out' culture that leads to trans kids, drag is 'on the trans spectrum', etc.

He has been at it since he was 7 btw, here he is dancing on a bar (at around 1:10)

Cherries101 · 16/12/2018 18:06

He’s a gaga impersonator. Underaged kids perform at clubs all the time (Sclub7, brittney spears, justin bieber etc) and parents should be around to ensure they are taken care of. In this case both of the kid’s parents are always around.

SlowlyShrinking · 16/12/2018 18:09

And yet he has an awareness of ketamine use. So obviously not being shielded from inappropriate stuff very well, Cherries
And Britney Spears and Justin bieber have hardly emerged unscathed from their child star life, have they?

flyingdragonzog · 16/12/2018 18:11

@HomeStar

Corey Feldman has been mocked for years
Elijah wood has also spoken out though has so far survived
There was a documentary called "an open secret" that pretty much got ignored

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-hollywood-child-abuse-epidemic-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/

Personally I can't help but speculate on some of the bizarre behaviour at times of some who grew up in the industry- Miley, Britney, Bieber etc

There's countless people making videos on YouTube about monarch programming. And it all sounds like a conspiracy theory... but... I don't think it's that far fetched to believe anymore. Too many child stars are saying similar things

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 18:13

I have no idea if this is true

He’s a gaga impersonator. Underaged kids perform at clubs all the time (Sclub7, brittney spears, justin bieber etc) and parents should be around to ensure they are taken care of. In this case both of the kid’s parents are always around

but I didn't think the real Sclub7 and Bieber performed in such a sexualised manner so as a defence of adult men throwing money at a 10 year old performing a sexualised dance that seems a pretty weak defence.

SlowlyShrinking · 16/12/2018 18:13

Also the video of him with that notorious murderer raises a few questions. Like ‘wtf are his parents thinking?’ ‘Do they have any conception of appropriate boundaries for a child performer?’ ‘Why DOES he look like he’s not quite with it?’

QuietContraryMary · 16/12/2018 18:16

"Underaged kids perform at clubs all the time (Sclub7, brittney spears, justin bieber etc) "

Clubs? Do you mean the 'Mickey Mouse Club'?

AFAICT Britney Spears first went to an adult club when she was 17/18, with Melissa Joan Hart.

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 18:22

He accused Reddit, 4Chan and the right-wing media of implementing “a smear campaign against me and my company House Of Mann, claiming the ads are child pornography”

From Pink News article on Lactatia. I thought the photos of Lactatia were horribly sexualised.

Interesting diversionary tactic to try to smear anyone who isn't cool with Lactatia as a right- wing reactionary. I'm so glad I no longer care whether I'm considered to be right- wing.

R0wantrees · 16/12/2018 18:22

‘Why DOES he look like he’s not quite with it?’

They comment on the time being quite late but 'not a school night'

DandelionsAreNotLions · 16/12/2018 18:25

He’s a gaga impersonator. Underaged kids perform at clubs all the time (Sclub7, brittney spears, justin bieber etc)

I don't think Beiber's fam had him crafting home made gifts for murderers , miming drug snorting, collecting dollars on stage like a stripper, and moulding him into a little Alig clone
Maybe you aren't aware of the ClubKids era, its really a dangerous scene to emulate at 10 yes old.

It all makes Lactatia's life seem really wholesome.

DandelionsAreNotLions · 16/12/2018 18:28

Desmond's life I mean re Lactatia being wholesome.

DandelionsAreNotLions · 16/12/2018 18:33

?’ ‘Why DOES he look like he’s not quite with it?’

I think he's often seen like that. Doesn't seem a naturally high energy dance and drama show off kid and having all that paper eyelashes glued to his face means he can hardly move his eyes much less see out of them. Must be a lot of pressure to always say the "right thing" and stick to his parents message about who he is .
Poor wee thing always trying to be "on message" . Grim.

SlowlyShrinking · 16/12/2018 18:38

Poor little boy 😞

KirstyAllsoppsFatterTwin · 16/12/2018 18:42

If you ignore any gender fluid/trans element to this, it would be seen for exactly what it is. Which is a very young child being exploited and encouraged to dress and dance in a prematurely sexualised way for a bunch of adults, in a very hedonistic and completely unsuitable adult environment, having money thrown at him like an adult pole dancer who can be hired by the half hour in a back room.

This is being sold as allowing a small boy to express his inner woman in a non-judgemental, supportive environment.

What it really is, is allowing a bunch of gay men to express their inner paedophile in a supportive, non-judgemental environment.

HamiltonCork · 16/12/2018 18:43

I wonder what he’ll do when he goes through the inevitable teenage rebellion phase?

53rdWay · 16/12/2018 18:47

Interesting diversionary tactic to try to smear anyone who isn't cool with Lactatia as a right- wing reactionary.

Reminds me of that story about Allen Ginsberg hassling Andrea Dworkin for not supporting his paedophilia advocacy. He said "But the right-wing want to put me in jail! " and she said "yes, they're very sentimental, I'd kill you."

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