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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

10 year old boy dances on stage at adult gay bar for money.

186 replies

Iused2BanOptimist · 16/12/2018 13:48

I feel so sad for this child.

www.dangerous.com/49809/half-naked-10-year-old-boy-dances-on-stage-for-money-at-adult-gay-bar-in-new-york/

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flyingdragonzog · 16/12/2018 18:51

Look it's already being sold to us - it's fine to give kids drugs underage, cut the red tape on it for their benefit

It's fine to have kids sexualised and paraded and we're meant to clap

It's fine everyone. Keep your eyes closed. Nothing to see here. Celebrate it

Kinks and fetishes are to be out in the open, take it to work and win awards for the brave and stunningness of being your true authentic self

Support your kids in being their true authentic selves and teach them about sexuality long before they aware of what sexuality is. It's just creativity. There is absolutely nothing to see here.

Everything is completely normal and you're a bigot if you think otherwise

(I believe none of the above myself)

Iused2BanOptimist · 16/12/2018 18:58

What it really is, is allowing a bunch of gay men to express their inner paedophile in a supportive, non-judgemental environment.

Kirsty yes yes.

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IamThereforeIdontIdentify · 16/12/2018 19:02

As drag queens are under Stonewall's "trans umbrella" then he's trans whether he defines himself that way or not (like I'm cis despite not defining myself that way). Hence any criticism of him attracting "transphobe" responses.

www.healthygaycornwall.org.uk/trans%20umbrella.png

deepwatersolo · 16/12/2018 19:03

Love Andrea Dworkin‘s response, 53rd way. It is depressing this fight has to be fought every generation anew, apparently.

zen1 · 16/12/2018 19:04

In the few Instagram pics where he is shown without make-up, he looks sullen, tired and unwell. Clearly this child is being exploited, yet no one in authority seems to give a damn.

KirstyAllsoppsFatterTwin · 16/12/2018 19:19

That instagram account has made me feel sick. I can't actually believe it's even legal. There are parallels with the little girls that are made up in a very adult way for child pageants in the US. but this takes it to a whole new level of seedy, sensationalist madness.

I suppose that will be the next thing - four year old boys being told they are trans girls and being entered into girl pageants. Christ. Where will it end? Sad

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 19:24

In the few Instagram pics where he is shown without make-up, he looks sullen, tired and unwell

He looks tired and undernourished even with make-up.

deepwatersolo · 16/12/2018 19:46

Kirsty these girl beauty pageants are one creepy horror show (not the kids‘ fault, obviously, the situation they are put in is what is horrific). But at least in those pageants the audience is apparently really only made up by the kids‘ family members (plus jury). But this here - with the audience full of strangers, possibly drunk, who throw around dollar bills? Wholly new level.

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 19:48

I agree this goes way beyond the girl beauty pageants.

Terfing · 16/12/2018 20:12

Is he on puberty blockers or similar? Without make-up, he looks younger than 12... 

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 20:15

Both of these boys are very pale and thin I do wonder what else is going on their faces are so drawn they have potruding teeth.

PencilsInSpace · 16/12/2018 20:18

How does child protection work in the US, does anybody know? Do they have national laws and frameworks or is it all done at state level?

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 20:21

This is the video I was thinking of. His make-up is better applied than mine will ever be but he still looks tired and undernourished.

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 20:24

pencil I have no idea maybe both country and state laws but that Lactiania kid is canadian

MargueritaPink · 16/12/2018 21:17

Reminds me of that story about Allen Ginsberg hassling Andrea Dworkin for not supporting his paedophilia advocacy. He said "But the right-wing want to put me in jail! " and she said "yes, they're very sentimental, I'd kill you."

Great anecdote.

deepwatersolo · 16/12/2018 21:27

Just thinking of it: isn’t it ironic how there is broad agreement that th Afghan custom of Bacher bazi is appalling and must be rooted out, Western values and all - and then this is embraced?
Not much of a difference, really.

SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 21:27

Someone has complained to the venue:

"I just got off the phone with someone from this bar. He said that he and other employees were not on board with it. The promoter of this event is Frankie Sharp. He, the parents & 3 Dollar Bill should all be ashamed of themselves and investigated. "

twitter.com/Sundance403/status/1074406553195872256?s=19

"I asked him how this was allowed to continue if he and other employees were so upset by it, and his response was he was too busy trying to "keep control of the crowd." He said the owner should be there tomorrow. If she is, I may walk over there after I finish work."

twitter.com/Sundance403/status/1074413250819829760?s=19

ChewyLouie · 16/12/2018 21:39

Deepwatersolo- that was my first thought too, esp the celebrity aspect associated with these children. It is a western take on bacha bazi and cannot be excused on the basis of being oh so edgy. Nothing edgy about child abuse.

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 21:41

Good for Sundance it sounds the seediests of places.

Qcng · 16/12/2018 22:20

He said the owner should be there tomorrow. If she is, I may walk over there after I finish work

That'll be a "she" then.

Bluebellsarebells · 16/12/2018 22:25

Are Desmond and lactacia two different boys?
They both have a very similar look about them and it's not just the paper lashes.
Very thin, drawn faces.
I have a 9yo son. He's thin all over but his face does not look anything like either of those boys. They do not look well.
That gwen Stefani impersonation is just vomit inducing.
I can't even see any particular talent for dancing there. I wonder what those men like so much about it. Hmm
That's one of my favourite no doubt songs ruined.

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 22:34

Yes they are 2 different children but you are right they do have the same look about them.

MrsJayy · 16/12/2018 22:36

Lactatia proper name is Nemisis Hmm

MargueritaPink · 17/12/2018 00:18

I think it's actually Nemis.

Nemis and his unspeakable mother were on This Morning in 2017. It seems the viewers of This Morning are not as vacuous as the presenters.

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/morning-viewers-accuse-mother-nine-11239334

Hisaishi · 17/12/2018 00:34

This is all very weird. The liberal woke crowd would be the first ones to condemn beauty pageants for girls as old-fashioned, conservative nonsense. But this is ok?

He's taking items of clothing off and then taking money from adults. How the FUCK is that ok?

And he's not even some dance prodigy or something? He just waves his arms about a bit. So I don't even really get what we're supposed to admire about him? The fact that he puts on girls' clothes? Millions of little girls do that every day and no one is excited about them.

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