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I am a right winger - convince me to become a feminist

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RadicalConservative · 01/12/2018 20:27

As per subject, I vote Conservative, why? Because I believe in personal responsibility, I also believe that if you cannot afford something you should tighten your belt and save up instead of relying on credit which is ridiculously expensive i.e fiscal responsibility. I also believe in an individuals dignity and right to live whether that be a older person with a debilitating illness or a foetus in the womb. I lurk on FWR for a number of reasons and I would like to know and understand "feminist" issues however I find I am often dismayed at some of the "tribalism" and "hive mind" mentality on these threads. However if you can, please do try to educate me as to why women like myself should in your view be feminists, as it would seem that right wingers such as myself are only useful when we happen to agree on specific issues - see this tweet for an example: twitter.com/NadineDorries/status/1068477170526445568

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RadicalConservative · 01/12/2018 21:39

How old are you? Are you a mother? 58 and yes I am a mother

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:39

lurking

I think im just going to hide at the next election...possibly with a large supply of gin

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:39

But the blue rinse sounds good...

Justhadathought · 01/12/2018 21:40

I simply cannot imagine 'feminists' hounding any woman who determines to continue with a pregnancy which is the result of rape. Please explain?

IstanbulConstan · 01/12/2018 21:40

If the MM isn't Toby Young I guess it's a single middle-aged man with a glass of red in his hand wearing an aged navy dressing gown and a grumpy facial expression.

LurkingWaspi · 01/12/2018 21:40

I meant Davis not Davies, Grin
I think....

Bowlofbabelfish · 01/12/2018 21:40

I miss bewilderness too...

You know, half my Facebook has their Xmas trees up. I’m not sure how I feel about that. Insanity? Enthusiasm? Efficiency ?

treaclesoda · 01/12/2018 21:40

I could find hundreds of examples of pro-lifers attacking vulnerable women (verbally and occasionally physically). But that proves nothing. I know far more pro-lifers than pro-choicers but the vast majority of them would not think it acceptable to verbally attack rape victims.

Because they're not a hive mind.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:40

Mines up bowl

KataraJean · 01/12/2018 21:41

CAN I JUST SAY I WISH PEOPLE WOULD FUCK THE FUCK OFF WITH USING RAPE AS A GOTCHA TACTIC OR A MEANS OF GETTING PEOPLE TO RESPOND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

Low low low.

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RadicalConservative · 01/12/2018 21:41

I am a rape survivor. I find it distasteful that you use a survivor’s experience as a rhetorical device in a discussion about feminism which posters have entered here in good faith. It is not related to the discussion. It is making people respond to things they did not say or do. I have had enough of that in my life.

Would you like to compare oppression and assaults? I was assaulted at age 7, then groomed at age 13, and your point is?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:42

Well said katara

KataraJean · 01/12/2018 21:42

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RadicalConservative · 01/12/2018 21:42

CAN I JUST SAY I WISH PEOPLE WOULD FUCK THE FUCK OFF WITH USING RAPE AS A GOTCHA TACTIC OR A MEANS OF GETTING PEOPLE TO RESPOND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

Low low low.

Thank you

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ABitCrapper · 01/12/2018 21:44

If the MM isn't Toby Young I guess it's a single middle-aged man with a glass of red in his hand wearing an aged navy dressing gown and a grumpy facial expression in a winged back leather chair? Grin
Bowl I went past house after house with full lights and illuminations when out on a run WEDNESDAY! So not even December! Shock
Surely that's illegal?! Grin

lydiamajora · 01/12/2018 21:45

Hoo boy.

Alright, I'm out.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:45

katara Flowers

Hope youre ok

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 01/12/2018 21:45

Night lydia

Bowlofbabelfish · 01/12/2018 21:46

I shall go battle the spiders in the garage to retrieve ours then...Grin

ABitCrapper · 01/12/2018 21:46

Night all xx

AssassinatedBeauty · 01/12/2018 21:46

Wow, you've really shown your true colours there @Itsallgoingtobefine2018... how do you expect anyone to discuss anything with you when you respond with such palpable contempt?

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RadicalConservative · 01/12/2018 21:47

In conclusion having seen the incredibly helpful responses, I am glad I am not a feminist and that I am a Conservative woman. Your responses are just perfect in illustrating how insane you are. Goodnight

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Justhadathought · 01/12/2018 21:48

As it happens, I spent a portion of my life as a "Born Again Christian'. It was an incredibly powerful and healing experience. However, what I did not appreciate or take to quite so well was the 'group politic' and the social conformity that I witnessed around me.

Christ is not about a rule book and a set of laws ( very old testament), but about openness to love and to life; and to suffering; personal responsibility, and pain. Christ was the ultimate radical. He was not a conservative.

HestiaParthenos · 01/12/2018 21:49

You know, half my Facebook has their Xmas trees up. I’m not sure how I feel about that. Insanity? Enthusiasm? Efficiency ?

I know, right?

The shops have christmas stuff since october.

I'll put up a tree on christmas, I like to keep the tree until January, and they lose all needles if you put them inside too early.