Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 2

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321127-public-service-announcement

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links in following posts.

Yep, I looked at the GAP website

All the women’s clothes seemed to be modelled by women

I wondered if it was an ad-quite fancied some of the stuff on there!

The employee can "identify" however they want- they still can't be sacked just for being pregnant.

An employer absolutely can sack someone for being pregnant. It happens all the time. An employee can be sacked for virtually anything if an employer wants to get rid of them.

What can happen though is that the woman can take them to a tribunal and they have a high risk of being successful if they can prove that they were sacked just for being pregnant. It often doesn't mean getting the job back though. Which is why you would need other evidence that the job was all going well, and that there were no other issues, as employers also lie, and make up evidence to show that they had other concerns that were not related to the pregnancy.

Blimey. There's some weird stuff going on at the moment. I've just had a jammy dodger confiscated, that I was offering to someone who appeared confused about the feminist hair grooming code. I mean, who seriously thinks there's a grooming code? There seems to be a lot of needling going on to get people to define feminism for a gotcha.

You can share my jammy dodgers Blue. When I've finished picking the stray hairs off them that is.

I thought that was what the biscuit was for

The changing goal posts especially for FWR is frankly starting to feel threatening again

The current rule being targeted for exaggerated reporting is troll hunting. Don't post cookies.

Thanks LangCleg.

Thanks for the heads up. I didn't realise biscuits were only awarded to trolls, I thought they were there for utter thoughtlessness as well so a safe bet either way. I should have used words instead - I'd deleted plenty in drafting that post and wrongly thought the jammy dodger more succinct!

There has been a rash of 'can you do X or Y if you call yourself a feminist' posts lately and I don't know what it's about. When did people start becoming so rule-bound again? (Ikr, it's partly what's behind the whole pink and blue thing.)

sometimes this thread feels like a Tafsir , an attempt to interpret the sometimes opaque rules and actions handed down from Mumsnet Towers

I didn't realise biscuits were only awarded to trolls

They aren't. But y'know: now they are.

Confusing. If someone gave me a biscuit I'd think they were being a friend and I'd probs offer them a cup of tea back. Oh no.. is it a poisoned biscuit?

Is it safe to say here that on the "married to a man" thread I actually completely believe that none of what op said actually happened, and there's a very strange thing happening that I don't quite understand particularly when compared to the "long hair" thread.
Wtf is going on!

Relieved to see it's not just me who thinks we've had a few unusual threads recently. I wore a skirt today, can I still be a feminist?

I haven’t worn a bra for months. I win feminism.

Yup, to me it’s obvious. It might just be a distraction thing, to make the conversations look trivial at the top of the FWR board?

I haven’t worn bras for YEARS. Longer than you. I win.

hands over Feministing card, hangs head

(I forgot asterisks boldest things).

And I free bleed.

I reign supreme for all of eternity 😂😂

Shall I start a thread saying
"The stereotype of feminists as short haired, unshaven women who are not married to men benefits patriarchy by putting women off feminism so please stop it"
??!

Yessssss

DpWm
Ooh yes
Pleeesse start that thread.

For research purposes obvs

But... but... biscuits were an emoji MN created themselves that became associated with people who were being obtuse, obstructionist and you couldn't be bothered wasting your time with.

They're deleting them? WTAF?

I had a biscuit removed ages ago, when I first returned from voluntary gulag. It seemed utterly ludicrous that you could use an emoji which is routinely used elsewhere on the site for exactly the same purpose, but suddenly on the FWR boards, it's too insulting for words.

"The stereotype of feminists as short haired, unshaven women who are not married to men benefits patriarchy by putting women off feminism so please stop it"

I'm so sorry, I see now my behaviour has been counterproductive. I will marry immediately and grow my hair.

*But... but... biscuits were an emoji MN created themselves that became associated with people who were being obtuse, obstructionist and you couldn't be bothered wasting your time with.

They're deleting them? WTAF?*

Just felt like repeating that.

Anyway, I've just finished rereading 1984. I'm not sure if that makes it a good or a bad time to be reading about this subject so I'm hiding here for a little while

(Winston, how many cats am I holding up?)