Lily Madigan and the School Saga

[dillydallyXX]

Lily Madigan has been self-praising again, with more details about how they "sued" their school.

They hired a "team of solicitors", to "advice" Lily and the "principle" gave in on all their "demands".

The truth is slightly different.

Lily arrived at school wearing basically a boob tube. They were sent home because it was against uniform policy. Any girl wearing that for school would have been asked to change or go home. It's clear Lily was looking for a reason to kick things off.

Lily was not "made to wear a man's suit". They were asked to adhere to the school uniform - like any pupil. The girls wear a blazer too and can wear a skirt or trousers; many girls choose to wear trousers and the blazer.

Lily organised a petition. It was an ONLINE petition, quite different to a paper one. The support Lily claimed she had is very difficult to prove.

The school's staff tried very hard to placate Lily. They had meetings with their mother, the pastoral care team, etc - and got nowhere. It apparently caused distress to Lily's younger sister who was at school.

Lily contacted a solicitor in London. Because of the Equality Act the school did have to cater to transgender pupils - and when the school was informed of their obligations they changed their policy in accordance to the Act.

There was no suing of the school. There was no legal action, certainly no "legal battle", as Lily repeatedly claims.

There was no victimisation of Lily. Afterwards, the school said they had tried very hard for Lily and their words and actions had been deliberately twisted.

And now Lily still says that "they won", they "got it all", and that they did all this behind their parents' backs, and then "embarked on a media tour".

Lily's parents knew about it all, right from the day Lily was sent home.

Maybe someone is just paying attention in class. Because we all really really know what a first year politics student thinks.

I’m a first year politics student and I really really don’t know what I think other then, at the moment, LM is a twat.

Actually, I do also think I would be a disaster in any position of political power. Maybe it’s my female socialisation...

Well that's certainly true.

Hey transborg troll spys. If any of you are reading this and you genuinely care about lily madigan check on her eating. She looks painfully thin and healthy young people shouldn't just pass out. She really needs help I think.

*it's true lm is a twat

On the other hand there is an emerging interest in wider political issues including her launching a campaign called AskYouthtoStand.

No way have all those tweets been typed by the same person, they are just too different in style.

So someone is still pulling LM's strings.

Its almost as if some people in political parties are considering the possibility of a general election.

I've got a degree in Politics and:

1. It put me right off a career in it.
2. Nobody flew me to LA.

So someone is still pulling LM's strings.

Its almost as if some people in political parties are considering the possibility of a general election.

Labour must be feckin' desperate for candidates, then...

Labour must be feckin' desperate for candidates, then...

May alternatively be damage control.

Interesting kind of damage control. As a lifelong labour voter, I absolutely refuse to put my cross in the box for them again until they've shown they understand what a woman is, and demonstrate some sort of spine dealing with Madigan and their ilk.

Interesting kind of damage control. As a lifelong labour voter, I absolutely refuse to put my cross in the box for them again until they've shown they understand what a woman is, and demonstrate some sort of spine dealing with Madigan and their ilk.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't think I am quite at that stage yet with my local CP. but the decision may be taken out of my hands, as we are saying things to them about these things that they do not like. I'm doing a talk in the spring to my Women's Group on all this, and I ain't toeing "the party line" just because it is " the party line".

If I were a " normal" Labour Party member, I suspect I would have had quiet warnings by now, but as a TS woman, it is kind of hard for them to suspend me. But they might well feel they have to.

I'd return to the Party later, when all this insanity dies down. How long will it be? 2 years? 5 years?

Another day, another lie.

Lily didn't do "unpaid work in LA". She was flown out to film a video for Teen Vogue. She ticked the trans box, and they were taken in by her.

She wasn't knocked out in Westminster. This is the third, different version of this "story".

And she didn't "sue" her school. There was no legal action taken.

Her main claim to fame is a complete lie.

How do people take these lies....

I do not get it

Because questioning LM is transphobia.

Knocked out? By who or what? falling masonry perhaps?

Lily's account reads as if she is a case study of someone who is slowly losing capacity. It's really sad.

I know that transgenderism is not officially a mental health issue, but, it is true that every single trans person I know has a bunch of mental health comorbidities. Every. Single. One.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkmIyC6v00

it is true that every single trans person I know has a bunch of mental health comorbidities. Every. Single. One.

That is my experience as well and dates back to the late 1970s, so it's not just this generation of TRAs.

LM originally enrolled to study fashion at the University for the Creative Arts (formerly the Kent Institute of Art & Design plus the Surrey Institute of Art & Design). Mostly, one suspects, because it has lower entry thresholds than most universities (remember LM had to re-sit their A Levels) and because it was local to LM (resident in / near Rochester). Whilst there, LM ran the LGBTQ+ liberation group, plus the women's liberation group, and was Campus Executive Officer. And Labour Party constituency Women's Party.

( I know - running the late Ian Paisley close on the number of appointments held at one time... )

After a year, LM transferred to politics at Goldsmiths. Now, I'm all in favour of mature students getting lower offers that take into account their life experience as well as traditional academic qualifications. It's great that people who didn't get the opportunity to pursue higher education the first time round are given a chance later in life. And I don't disagree that LM has acquired a larger amount of political experience that most 21 year olds (LM was accepted onto the Houses of Parliament Student LEaders programme in 2017, as well as the various posts). However, LM isn't old enough to count as a mature student, and I thought the admissions tutors had to be sure that the prospective student had the intellectual capacity to cope with the rigours of the course. From what we can see from the way LM talks and writes in public, either the admissions tutor made a decision that is, um, brave; someone decided that it was a good look for Goldsmiths to have LM enrolled; or the course actually isn't that rigorous.

As an aside, I'm fast coming to the conclusion that in 2018 the definition of privilege is having the time and ability to pursue myriad activities. Most of us are too busy grafting, caring for family members, or simply making it from day to day to even contemplate jetting to LA (particularly for "unpaid work") or holding 2/3/4/5 different elected posts at the same time. Anyone who can do this should consider the circumstances that allow them this luxury and feel pretty damn well off

How do people take these lies...

Interesting that "it's not fair, you're transphobic!" hasn't protected Whittle from being held to account for the lies statistics they have pedalled about. And yet no-one is prepared to call out others who repeat similar dodgy data.

Why is that, one wonders? It's almost as if the default position to believe men but doubt women doesn't change through transition

Olennas wimple; re LM's college; I went to the same college 2000 odd onwards. She would have been on a Foundation course last year, not yet a Fashion Degree. Though she might have pre-decided to do a Fashion Degree when the course was completed. Their system involves a guaranteed place on successful completion of a foundation course. And you do not need good A levels to do a Foundation, as it is an Art College. So far, so straightforward. She could get onto a Fashion Degree course with poor or no A levels. But..

Where does a place to study at an " proper uni" ie Goldsmiths, and the Politics Degree, come in? It is a mystery, and we all like a mystery.

My only thought is that someone unknown had a word with someone unknown at Goldsmiths,having had a word with LM and floated the idea.If anyone has a better explanation do let us know.

Possibly someone in Politics somewhere sees more potential in LM than many other people do?

If LM's knowledge and grasp of what is meant by the patriarchy and its effects on women, especially lesbians, is anything to go by, LM has an awful lot to learn.