Trans Awareness Week

[Thingybob]

As it's Trans Awareness Week I wanted to give a shout out to all the old school Trans folk who are busy getting on with their lives and are not so vocal online.

Peace and acceptance to you all
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There was an article/report going round forever ago now about transmen in male prisons and it said 65% of them reported they had been raped in prison (which what we know about rates of reporting is likely much much higher). It’s not exactly shocking surely?? Putting a woman in a man’s prison makes it highly likely she will be raped.

I must have missed that report. Do you happen to have a link handy?

The surprising part is that there are transmen in male prisons, I thought the UK stats said there were none in the male estate.

I'm glad this thread wasn't deleted, I have no issue whatsoever with transsexuals (as we used to call them) going about their business. We had a very nice transwoman in our village growing up, or maybe she was a transvestite but either way she/he never did me any harm. Peace to all men and women and all that - but I do have a huge problem with ANYONE trying to destroy free speech, safeguarding for women and children and I'd have a thing or two to say to anyone who tried to undermine my sex of Adult Human Female.

Science=facts and is not a belief system but by all means dress however you please just use the men's loos if you have a penis.

My apologies for misunderstanding your earlier post @ PainInTheEar

Trans awareness week? Missed that. A bit pointless, really, as someone said earlier ,it seems to have been trans week for about two years. We're all a bit sick of it, tbh. Someone also referred earlier to " transsexual, as we used to call them". Transsexual woman ( or man) is still the favourite term amongst yer actual "socially transitioned over two years minimum, had hormones, had ops, got the Gender Certificate and birth certificate" people. ( I'm one such) . The term " trans" or "transgender" seems far too wide , and can include some pretty odd people, who even I would be unhappy to share a changing room with. I'm aware of the irony. So why am I wasting your time by posting this; its to remind everyone that there are a good number of transsexual women and men who are dead against self ID, and pretty worried about how things are going. We just want to live our lives in peace. For the record, we prefer " she" when people refer to us, as a " courtesy title" if you like, but of course we know we are biological men, for all the hormones and surgery. It is idiotic to claim otherwise. TS women and "trans" people are often not the same thing at all. I campaign against self ID, which seems now likely to be kicked into the long grass, and a good thing too.

People can have their beliefs without trying to force everyone to have the same belief.

But when half of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and 40% support Sharia law it arguably can't be dismissed as a harmless ideology.

Furthermore, the ideology is forced upon the population in the countries where it is the principle belief system and, despite being relatively rare occurrences, most terror attacks are undertaken by Muslims.

Despite this I still think that anybody who professes to be 'peak Muslim' is going to get a poor reception.

I mean, can you imagine the reaction if a TRA detonated a bomb at a GC event, killing several dozen 'terfs?

Scott, did you have a point? This just seems calculated to goad every single person posting on this thread, GC and TRA alike.

I'm musing on the fact that 'peak trans' is deemed acceptable but 'peak Muslim' is probably not, supporting my point with examples - a point which wasn't originally mine I might add.

If it offends everybody on this thread then I might suggest that it speaks more about the demographic of this forum than about anything else.

I'm just wondering why you think it's appropriate to ask a question about a bombing of a GC event when a) bomb threats have already been made to GC events and b) a number of Muslim women who have been part of the most recent GC campaign have been horrified at the consequences of certain proposals.

If I'm 'offended' it's because yet again, a bloke with an opinion thinks he can wave the big old thing around and make stupid, erroneous comparisons that just come across as arrogant and, tbh, pretty bloody islamophobic too.

Islamaphobic?

That sounds like the equivalent of the 'transphobic' accusations we hear so frequently on here, tbh.

And I've never understood why the criticism of certain (but not other) religions is so frowned upon anyhow. Outside of racism (an entirely separate but often coexisting factor) it shouldn't be prohibited to criticise any religion.

You are all over the place with your theories there Scott

First of all could you provide the source to back up this statement you made: half of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and 40% support Sharia law

And secondly:

most terror attacks are undertaken by Muslims

I mean, can you imagine the reaction if a TRA detonated a bomb at a GC event, killing several dozen 'terfs?

I'll just leave this here for you to peruse at your leisure

I'm just wondering why you think it's appropriate to ask a question about a bombing of a GC event when a) bomb threats have already been made to GC events and b) a number of Muslim women who have been part of the most recent GC campaign have been horrified at the consequences of certain proposals.

And this is quite frankly rather disingenuous.

My point (as I'm sure you understand, even if you're unwilling to acknowledge it) is that many people on here seem unwilling to condemn a religion which is associated with subjugation of women and horrific acts of violence, but are all too happy to condemn a demographic who want (rightly or wrongly) to share your changing room.

If we can say 'peak trans' why can't we say 'peak Muslim' or ' peak lesbian'?

Yeah, it's not, but merrily making the association in your comparison between Muslims and blowing people up is not critiquing a religion, it's making a fairly overt insinuation that being Muslim is obviously connected to being a murderer.

Shit, I thought this thread was out of place and not the best thought through post ever put on FWR, but your contributions have made me feel very warm and welcoming to even the most convinced woman pushing the trans-narrative.

I think we can say peak fundamentalist.

If we can say 'peak trans' why can't we say 'peak Muslim' or ' peak lesbian'?

Because Muslim people and lesbian people are not trying to infringe on womens rights in the uk.

Terrorists are but you do really want to align transpeople with terrorists? I really don't get your point unless you are just against Islam for some reason?

Chegg, mate, you appear to be very pleased with yourself, but your basic comprehension is lacking all over the place here. Plenty of us have issues with patriarchal religion, and say so, but we don't 'condemn Islam'. Plenty of us want to able to say no to dicks anywhere we choose to - but we don't 'condemn all transwomen'.

I've no idea what the hell 'peak lesbian' is supposed to refer to, but I'm way past Peak Chegg, tbh.

Peak MRA with other issues too, but that's just my ladybrain opinion.

First of all could you provide the source to back up this statement you made: half of British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal and 40% support Sharia law

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More than half of British Muslims (52%) think homosexuality should not be legal, and nearly half (47%) think it is not appropriate for gay people to teach in schools, according to a new survey of British Muslims.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html

"There are relatively large levels of support among British Muslims for the implementation of elements of Sharia law," Policy Exchange said. 43% said they supported "the introduction of Sharia Law" and just 22% were opposed.

www.secularism.org.uk/news/2016/12/over-40-percent-of-uk-muslims-support-aspects-of-sharia-law

Yeah, what the hell is 'peak lesbian'. What have they ever done to you Scott?

You sound exactly like all the pathetic men who complain about International Women's Day and their whatabouterry.

If you genuinely claim to be feminists and not anti trans, complaining about international trans awareness week is not a good way to go about it.

In day to day life I tend to evaluate people on their individual character. In fact, I'm good friends with a Muslim boxer who regularly comes round to spar beat the shit out of me.

However, I agree with Christopher Hitchens (despite him being a pompous twat) that it's the apocalyptic element of Islam (e.g. the 'final' religion) which causes it to be so catastrophic when taken to its extreme conclusion. If I'm not allowed to say that then surely we can't criticise Christianity either (which also has its fair share of problems IMO).

But again, why is 'peak trans' acceptable if the others are not?

The above argument about the ill intentions of the TRA lobby is weak sauce in my view. Firstly, TRAs do not represent all of the trans community to some of whom the term 'peak trans' is undoubtedly offensive, and furthermore it isn't considered acceptable for POC to be racist towards Caucasians despite our serious transgressions in the past (even if it is somewhat understandable).