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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transage bloke on Victoria Derbyshire

175 replies

FloralBunting · 12/11/2018 10:35

Looks like Jane Fae is on to explain why it's not the same as transgender...

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FloralBunting · 12/11/2018 22:27

Ha! I think that's best case scenario, tbh. I'm reading a common or garden egotist grifter. But if it puts the willies up Fae, it's all one, I guess.

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Poppyred85 · 12/11/2018 22:31

If it puts the willies up Fae
Arf arf

As you were.....

AngryAttackKittens · 12/11/2018 22:36

Next GC leaning person or smart journalist on a show with Fae needs to ask the following questions.

  1. Does Faye use women's changing rooms at the gym, pool, etc, ie spaces where women and girls will be naked?
  1. If so, and a woman or girl in that space expressed distress at Fae's presence, what would Fae do?
  1. Does Faye still believe that extreme porn should not be regulated, and that girls under the age of 18 should be allowed to be featured in it?

Fae is quite literally the face of both what GC women are concerned about and the group whose interests TRAs are most invested in representing. So let's put it all out there in the open and see how the public feels about the issues once they're aware of that.

Wrathofjurgenklop · 12/11/2018 22:43

Milk
Thanks for giving us a quick bio for Emile, he was very good at putting his point across. I can see Simon Cowell types doing something similar, although SC is far too rich and famous
Compared to trans issues, this age identifying seems plausible.
I think I would rather accommodate Emile's wishes.

I've watched it a couple of times as well.
I do like to see Fae in profile. Grin

paffuto · 12/11/2018 22:47

Yes AAK, and also Electron's question 20.00 what is it you can't do as a man you can do as a woman?

Iused2BanOptimist · 12/11/2018 22:49

Emile looks good for his age, he'd make a very passable 49year old, seems mentally sharp too. So he's welcome to another twenty years before he draws his pension. Maybe a special trans age financial package can be created, get a mortgage offset against the pension you won't be drawing.

As for JF - anyone here on tinder? What I wouldn't give to see that profile. 🤯😂

Iused2BanOptimist · 12/11/2018 23:08

Jane discovering perhaps a little of what Germaine Greer meant when she said that old women are invisible. Having identified as a batty old lady it is rather hard to mansplain to a sharp, smart man who is twenty years younger. 😉🤣

Wrathofjurgenklop · 12/11/2018 23:17

Iused
Tinder profile?
Photoshop obvs.

Fae might need a new hairbrush if there are more TV appearances.

I can't talk, my hair is always a mess

Iused2BanOptimist · 12/11/2018 23:20

Wrath surely she wouldn't photoshop🤭. She is her authentic self, she's put a lot of effort into looking like that, she totally rocks the look. I won't dispute some form of body dysphoria going on there.

Wrathofjurgenklop · 12/11/2018 23:20

Having identified as a batty old lady it is rather hard to mansplain to a sharp, smart man who is twenty years younger

Spot on.

SignMeUp · 13/11/2018 03:04

Age dysphoria is absolutely a thing. It's a multi-billion dollar industry including cosmetics, nutritional products, cosmetic surgery, therapy, etc...

I would totally date him as his 'elder". Can we put him on that list where we choose which men get to stay?

SignMeUp · 13/11/2018 03:24

Not sure how current this is, but here's his web-site

www.ratelband.nl/?page_id=59&lang=en

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 13/11/2018 06:39

I really abhor how JF behaves. Her lack of ability to communicate in an adult manner makes my blood boil.
JF did not have anything intelligent to add and became pouty and sullen and avoided eye contact because she was pissed off.
Then she started banging the old drum ‘ but you’re harming people’.
She brightened then, she’s safe there as a victim. You all must now rush to pity me and I can’t be criticized because I’m vulnerable.

Iused2BanOptimist · 13/11/2018 06:43

Can anyone clever make a gif of her talking about lying on tinder?

It'd make a great ad for one of those upmarket dating agencies. 😂

BlardyBlar · 13/11/2018 07:13

JF did not have anything intelligent to add and became pouty and sullen and avoided eye contact because she was pissed off.

Yes. The comment that Fae made about expecting the interview to be about discrimination was very telling. The trans-agenda was being used and thus revealed for what it has become.

And a feminist? My eyes have now rolled out of my head and are lying on the floor. There’s a lot of dust under the couch!

boatyardblues · 13/11/2018 07:17

Just watched the Youtube clip - that guy is in very good nick. Interesting to see Jane floundering when Ratelband was not brought to heel by appeals to emotion. I also think he had a point: if we respect one group’s self identity, why not another’s?

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 13/11/2018 07:25

I think one of the things that floored Fae was that Emile was so perfectly happy to accept transgenderism - so nothing to accuse him of there - but by lumping them in together he made it that much harder for Fae to argue against his viewpoint without discrediting Fae's viewpoint at the same time.

Juells · 13/11/2018 07:35

uk.yahoo.com/news/good-morning-britains-age-fluid-guest-shocks-piers-morgan-language-103644753.html

Here he is talking on GMB saying "if you are born as a beautiful small girl and you feel like a man and now you want to have a dick" Hmm

HmmHmmHmm

Yeah, that's the way round that it works, small girls wanting to be men.

HmmHmmHmm

Datun · 13/11/2018 07:36

Interesting how Fae recommends he just lies. Why should he live a lie. The whole basis of transgenderism is that they don't want to live a lie, surely.

It's just living, breathing hypocrisy.

Vegilante · 13/11/2018 07:38

This is hilarious. JF was totally flabbergasted by the man insisting again & again, "it's my feeling, my feeling!" and demanding, "how can you not respect my feeling?"

And JF indignantly claiming: "A mortgage company isn't interested in your age! It's interested in how many years you're likely to be alive! It doesn't matter what age you are!"

How can someone of JF's age (oops!) not know that to decide how long a we'll be alive, mortgage companies subtract our age from the length of our expected lifespan (per actuarial tables)?

FekkoThePenguin · 13/11/2018 07:49

How old are they?

BettyDuMonde · 13/11/2018 07:59

JF is 61 and ER is 69 (well, trans49, I wouldn’t want to misage him) if I recall correctly.

Vegilante · 13/11/2018 08:02

"It's my feeling, it's your feeling. So I want you to respect me. If you don't respect me, you discriminate me," says the YoungOldMan, doing a great job of milking a hammy furrin accent in the tradition of Ricky Riccardo, the Gabor sisters, Charo.

JF says, " Sputter, sputter... sputter..." Shakes head, looks perturbed.

"It's not purely about a feeling," JF says lamely. "It's about a sense of identity..."

I love the sound made by a collapsing house of cards.

LikeDust · 13/11/2018 08:02

I think I would rather accommodate Emile's wishes.

I would hands down. Younger people are not 'oppressed' by over 65s in the way women are oppressed by males.

Transage people don't trample on the rights of an oppressed group.

Annandale · 13/11/2018 08:19

Transage is dangerous, of course it is. 50 year olds aren't oppressed by 80 year olds though i'm on the elderly parents thread and sometimes it feels like it but there are excellent reasons to treat 10 year olds and 30 year olds differently. I know we all know that but just to say this in case delight at one straw house getting blown down blinds us to the building of another.

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