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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transage bloke on Victoria Derbyshire

175 replies

FloralBunting · 12/11/2018 10:35

Looks like Jane Fae is on to explain why it's not the same as transgender...

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FloralCup · 12/11/2018 15:27

I think the guy is taking the piss to highlight the absurdity of self id.
I liked his line to Fae (paraphrase) "I respect your identity, and you respect mine, it's all lovely".
Fae not knowing what to say.

FloralBunting · 12/11/2018 15:49

He doesn't come across as doing a stunt about showing the ridiculous nature of self-ID to me. His motivation appears to be very much more about seeing the advantages inherent in a system of identity politics in extremis, and like any self serving bloke, sees an opportunity to set himself as part of the extra privilege club.

The only difference between him and Fae is that he is being quite direct and Fae is still invested in the subterfuge methods that have paid dividends so far, and is a bit ticked off that someone is trying to piggyback on Fae.

Which is all deliciously ironic, of course.

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TransposersArePosers · 12/11/2018 16:04

I thoroughly enjoyed watching that!

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 16:37

Hilarious, Fae has to back pedal like mad on all the legal self ID arguments to explain why it isn't the same concept.

OlennasWimple · 12/11/2018 17:03

I know JF would probably argue that they were being sarcastic - and of course many people tweak the facts on their OLD profiles usually how tall men are . But isn't it interesting how JF's response to someone having a problem getting the desired romantic / sexual interest is to tell lies about themselves.

But men never lie in order to gain the upper hand with prospective sexual partners! Who would possibly lie about being trans in order to take advantage of te access to female spaces that can accord?

Hmm
Electron1 · 12/11/2018 17:12

4 weeks to the court verdict. The implications are massive. Why record date of birth if self ID of age is based on feelings. The same concept applies, it is based on the natural order of time which is only a human recording of the number of times the earth rotates, why is that more important than feelings, it's a human construct after all. Bring it on...the flat earthers will be overjoyed...1600 scientists can say, we don't really care what carbon dating says, we want to base it on how we feel about the objects we found from earlier civilisations.

FloralBunting · 12/11/2018 17:15

Yeah, it's not going to go his way because it would open up far too many costly consequences that will have been considered - the female pensioners issue is one which springs to mind.

Self ID Transage is obviously a financial liability. Self ID transgender only fucks up women's rights, and gives a shite about that?

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Budgieinaberet · 12/11/2018 18:35

I'm just catching up on this.
VD is incredibly rude.
How old is JF ?

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 18:40

I think Malta and Ireland should definitely introduce self ID of age, they need more legal avenues for inflows and outflows of laundered money for fake identitty we can all hold up as Human Rights.

geekaMaxima · 12/11/2018 18:42

What are you on about, electron?

geekaMaxima · 12/11/2018 18:43

Re money laundering, I mean.

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 18:50

Malta is always held up as a bastion of human rights because you can self ID gender. You can also buy residency for 200,000 Euros, a facility much taken up by Russian billionaires to get EU passports, create legal entities. This BBC show link highlights that several Russian Billionaires live in a garage in Malta. A woman journo was murdered for mentioning it.

manueldelia.com/2017/08/listen-bbc-documentary-malta-passport-sales/

My point being, we keep getting told we are behind Malta in trans human rights, where for a handsome cash bung a notary will organise you a free ID as a female to conceal and continue your nefarious business as a woman, and not be traceable in anyway to the shipments of the profitable white powder.

How gullible our politicians?

FekkoThePenguin · 12/11/2018 18:53

I believe that zha zha gabor was transage.

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 18:54

BBC Newsnight

Published on 8 Jan 2018

The assassination in Malta of investigative journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia in October 2017 put the island in the headlines. John Sweeney, who reported on the story for Newsnight in the immediate aftermath, has been back to Malta to look into the stories Caruana Galizia was covering

But of course its all about gender identity......

lolaflores · 12/11/2018 18:59

Can I ask to identify as left handed please and I did like to continue using my right hand while I get used to life in the left lane.

Budgieinaberet · 12/11/2018 19:21

Right I've just had a quick Google JF is 61, Emile definitely looks younger Grin

paffuto · 12/11/2018 19:21

I found it quite refreshing that someone else was being accused of causing harm, instead of us. Made a change.

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 19:30

Right I've just had a quick Google JF is 61, Emile definitely looks younger

I suspect a bit of chemistry going on there, I think they may have gone Dutch after the show.

paffuto · 12/11/2018 19:33

Grin we have to laugh or we'd cry at the sheer ridiculousness of it all.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 12/11/2018 19:42

This whole transage crap is a peados wet dream. Able to self id as an 8 year old to abuse kids?
Like that 41 year old perv who they let prance around in a fucking leotard with a class of little girls so he could be his true self.

BettyDuMonde · 12/11/2018 19:44

He cut Fae off with ‘So, you are talking ONLY about your feelings’

Ereshkigal · 12/11/2018 19:54

How gullible our politicians?

I remember the other thread this was discussed on. Very interesting.

Electron1 · 12/11/2018 20:00

VD asks The Dutch man "what is it you can't do at 69 you can do at 49?"

Let's ask Fae "what is it you can't do as a man you can do as a woman?"

borntobequiet · 12/11/2018 20:09

61? I thought they were older than me. I’m 65!
The day I masquerade as an old dear is the day I’ll give up...whatever.

NewWomensMovement · 12/11/2018 20:22

I thought Fae was happily married? What's Fae on Tinder for?