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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another Woman Hounded Out of Employment...

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SunsetBeetch · 27/10/2018 10:53

A twitter account called @thewhitepube, run by two intensely irritating very young women, has been targetting a woman called Nina Edge for alleged 'transphobia', which has apparently culminated in her being sacked.

Excuse me WHO is running the @welshstreets account and retweeting bad terf bullshit logic?

I will loudly bang this drum tomorrow when everyone’s awake 😊 @edge_nina @welshstreets pls let me know in the meantime!! Sweet dreams Xxxxx

It appear the Welsh Streets account has become the soapbox for artist @edge_nina (who was recently commissioned to do the winter garden) to spout transphobia, does that represent the view of all involved in the Welsh Streets effort?

I understand why people followed the account in the past (because their housing activism has been good for Liverpool) but I would urge everyone to unfollow in the meantime because you are just putting your trans followers and audiences at arms length in the meantime.

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SunsetBeetch · 30/10/2018 16:33

Also this:

"Very pleased to hear @LJMU has given its full support to @edge_nina, art lecturer hounded by trans activists who claimed she had been sacked for her "transphobic" views. Classes continue this week as normal"
twitter.com/RosieDBennett/status/1057291636252774400?s=19

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SunsetBeetch · 30/10/2018 16:35

Oh cross posts there, Venus

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LiverpoolReSisters · 30/10/2018 16:51

Wonderful news. So glad to see sanity has prevailed here.

hackmum · 30/10/2018 17:11

Very good news, and also great to see the education editor of the Times making such a robust statement.

Datun · 30/10/2018 17:23

Excellent. People are finally waking up to what's behind the 'I stand up for trans rights' mantra.

PinaGrigio · 30/10/2018 19:46

Excellent news and I'm pleased that things are working as they should at LJMU. I do wish they would issue a proactive statement about this, but I'm very glad they've stood up to this bullying nevertheless.

SunsetBeetch · 30/10/2018 22:18

Another dreadful tweet from Paul Kenyon Shock

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HandsOffMyRights · 30/10/2018 22:32

FYI, some trans trivia:
MN favourite non binary Teddy Lord used to work at LJMU.

RiverTam · 30/10/2018 22:38

Looking at the White Pube Twitter they are floundering around now. They’ve been publicly slapped in the face with a wet kipper and no mistake. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer pair.

LemonJello · 30/10/2018 23:11

Oh yes. The wheels have come off this now 😂

Their tweets are going bananas as they double down. Apparently this is the hill they will die on.

VenusInSpurs · 31/10/2018 00:17

“Trans women are NOT “”” male bodied “””. Any assertion of this IS TRANSPHOBIA. THIS IS VERY BASIC. I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF U DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS.”

I thought the whole point was that TW had male bodies? How else does ‘born into tne wrong body work?’. Surely if the had female bodies they would be ‘cis’ (sic) not trans?

SunsetBeetch · 31/10/2018 01:00

So many connections, HandsOffMyRights . We're going to need a HUGE diagram.

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LiverpoolReSisters · 31/10/2018 06:48

Paul has blocked all the gender critical people on that thread.

KatVonGulag · 31/10/2018 06:56

Oh I bet he has resisters

I'm imagining him lalalaing with his fingers in his ears.

Also, WhitePube, glad those tossers are getting a pasting on Twitter.

Bullies the lot of them.

Juells · 31/10/2018 11:36

They don't think they're getting a pasting though, they just keep yelling "Obey" "Do what you're told" "TWAW" Unfortunately they're being shown up as very hard of thinking :(

Bonions · 31/10/2018 18:49

They’re still hounding

mobile.twitter.com/thewhitepube/status/1057696160914305024I

Needmoresleep · 31/10/2018 18:54

I like the reference to Mumsnet Demon.

Apt for Halloween. Time for us to get out Trick or Treeting.

SunsetBeetch · 31/10/2018 19:21

Absolute brats. What IS their problem?

And has a student leaked details of a confidential meeting to them?

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ProfessionalBarren · 31/10/2018 20:27

Fuck me, they’re not the sharpest are they? Can they not see the irony in their actions.

user1471442281 · 31/10/2018 20:40

Hi all, I'm a student journalist at LJMU currently writing a piece about what's happened to Nina. However, I'm severely lacking gender critical voices - I'm a big time mumsnet lurker so I know here is the place to find some! If you're from Liverpool, and especially if you're an activist or work in education, I would be very grateful to hear from you. Sorry if I'm being a CF for butting into the discussion with my request, but I'm trying my hardest to write something that clearly represents both sides fairly and accurately. If you'd like to give me a statement on your perspective of the events please email me at [email protected]. Again, sorry for this, but I'd be really appreciative if anyone could help!

Datun · 31/10/2018 21:44

user1471442281

Have you tried asking Nina?

user1471442281 · 31/10/2018 22:05

@Datun Have emailed her on her university website address and the one available on her website. I have also tweeted her. I have received no response - and I don't want to harass her. I will email her the story as it stands before it's published to give her further opportunity to respond. I don't want to be unfair to her, but I do feel it's a story that needs reporting on.

Datun · 31/10/2018 22:08

I'm not sure how you can represent both sides 'fairly and accurately' without her input.

And she doesn't appear to want to give you her input. At least for now.

user1471442281 · 31/10/2018 22:32

I'm attempting to do that by showcasing the @welshstreets tweets, leaving it to the reader to decide whether it's fair to judge Nina as transphobic. I was also attempting to find some voices in Liverpool that support Nina to provide balance. If you disapprove of me writing on this topic then so be it, but I'm trying so hard to avoid it being biased. (And actually, I'm on Nina's side, I walked out of a seminar after being branded transphobic for opposing Self ID, so I do understand at least a little bit).

Datun · 31/10/2018 22:38

User - I don't know if you are being biased or not. This is an anonymous forum.

I do know that it appears a lot of went on is being kept private. And therefore Nina is in a unique position to know. That's all, really.