M&S launches porn star martini in a can

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Keeping it classy, M&S.

Anyone use the M&S live chat successfully? I've waited to live chat and before anyone answered they ended the chat saying it's not available.
www.marksandspencer.com/MSContactUsCmd?storeId=10151&langId=-24&catalogId=10051&categoryId=282501&byEmail=8

Someone's been turning the cans around...

(That's from the Object fb btw.)

I keep hearing a song called 'Male Stripper' on the radio lately. Not heard any complaints about that oddly

Maybe not on Radio 4 the stations favoured by FWR/M&S shoppers?

Just googled it. If it is the Man 2 Man song I don't think women is the target demographic. It hasn't, unsurprisingly featured on Radios 3 or 4 or popped up in my YouTube or Amazon Music "if you like that, you'll like this" lists.

Any hoo, I'm pretty certain that the posters who have expressed concern about the creeping normalisation of porn won't be cheering for male strippers.

I thought I'd found another miscreant from this headline:

www.mirror.co.uk/money/aldi-now-selling-pornstar-martini-12982841

But actually Aldi is selling 'Infusionist Passionfruit Gin Liqueur'.

VerbeenaBeeks

I think more regulation and control is the solution, not total vilification and bans

Now personally I'd be quite happy for porn to be banned. However this thread has been about the , not unreasonable idea, that one might expect to go shopping in M&S without encountering porn related items.

I'm impressed at the level of hyperbole and exaggeration needed to twist that to "total vilification and bans"

But actually Aldi is selling 'Infusionist Passionfruit Gin Liqueur'.

Poor Aldi- that is a really misleading headline. The article kind of proves the OP's point- it's all mainstream and we're all supposed to know about it and be happy with it.

Did you click through the link to the "spreadable pornstar marmalade"?

That's the name... generally cocktail names are rude because they were made up in the 1920s and it was en vogue...

I'm impressed at the level of hyperbole and exaggeration needed to twist that to "total vilification and bans"

Erm...

Now personally I'd be quite happy for porn to be banned

I was under the impression that the 'rude' names were mostly much newer creations.

The origins of 'screwdriver' (which I'm pretty sure most people would just call 'vodka and orange' nowadays) was mundane : 'Decades ago, American oil workers in the Persian Gulf discreetly added vodka to their orange juice while on the job.
Lacking a spoon, the workers decided to stir the drink with a screwdriver.' - only later this spawned the 'screw' family of cocktails, which seem to have ingredients dictated by puns more than taste.

I didn't say to ban the name. I said using the name normalizes porn what would you suggest then if not banning it?

Friends the TV series did that a lot too I watched it when it came out and I watched it again recently, and it really hasn't dated well 😂

The Big Bang Theory had adult women dressing up as school girls for their partners That's so wrong. I hate BBT anyway but anything like dressing up as schoolgirls or being told to shave all your pubes off like a pre-pubescent girl is just creepy. Nothing sexy about it at all. Nor.alising paedophilia surely?

I just think this 'stuff' is so normalized and it is wrong to do so I think particularly with those examples you are right. I also think maybe sometimes it's easy for some to forget that we are adults and it's okay for us to see it. But not so much when you're young and very naive/easily influenced.

Define 'porn' and define 'around'. If you mean erotic images on cave walls or erotic art, or even still photos of naked ladies, I don't think it is the same yes I mean those. The Victorians were guilty of a bit of B&W photograph porn... seriously... not just naked women. Full on penetrative sex on show.

Indeed it has but I think now we see the people, often women, often young, 'caught up in it' more as victims again, true. The awareness of the reality is certainly growing.

I also agree with legal restrictions so young people cannot easily access porn This seems like a reasonable way forward and more importantly realistic.

Oh dear me- that whooshing noise is the point sailing over you.

Shall I explain?

I had not actually called for "total vilification and bans" anywhere on this thread. In my last post I stated that it would be my personal preference. I'm still not actually calling for it- merely stating what, I would like, in an ideal world.

To iterate it is impressive spinning- turning the idea that the foodhall at M&S should be free of porn related items into "vilification and bans"

To be clear my last post was to Verbeena Banks who seems to be struggling to work out the difference between could M&S foodhall not sell porn related items and ban all porn!

That's the name... generally cocktail names are rude because they were made up in the 1920s and it was en vogue...

Really? You think "porn star martini" is from the 1920s?

mentalfloss.com/article/57719/origins-10-popular-prohibition-cocktails

www.supercall.com/entertaining/best-1920s-cocktails-for-your-1920s-cocktail-party

I used to make a "quick f*ck" and "slippery nipple" when I was serving in a bar in 1990s not sure if they are going to make our supermarket shelves very soon 😁

littlebillie I’m still haunted by the NYE in the 90s where I had too many cock-sucking cowboys 🤢

As an absolute bare minimum, porn and porn references should be banned in spaces where children might see them. I don't think that this is controversial.

That's the name... generally cocktail names are rude because they were made up in the 1920s and it was en vogue

Er, no they weren't. Try the 90s unsurprisingly around the time lads mags Nuts, Zoo and FHM were hitting our shelves.

And generally, cocktail names are not rude. Although most don't make it onto cocktail menus in bars.

The idea of "pornstar" being a concept in the 20s....

uk.businessinsider.com/best-selling-cocktails-in-the-world-in-2018-2018-2/#26-cosmopolitan-despite-being-in-the-top-10-at-13-of-bars-polled-you-might-struggle-to-find-it-on-a-menu-so-know-the-ingredients-vodka-triple-sec-cranberry-juice-and-lime-juice-5

Oh look, 30 most popular cocktails in the world 2018 and not a rude name among them. Is it just us Brits who lack this sophistication?

I'd be happy with a total ban on porn. I think it is harmful. I'd like to live in a porn free world. It's not just how it is made or who watches it. It's who it effects.

And if porn wasn't a thing then the name of the cocktail would become meaningless and would literally just signify that (supposedly very nice) drink.

PlinkPlink

"I didn't say to ban the name. I said using the name normalizes porn what would you suggest then if not banning it?"

I'd say not using it. I'd be happy to ban it but that's not realistic.

'Friends' hasn't dated well. I'm not sure I'd agree I just think it's not as funny as I found it (where as I watch Frasier from a similar era and still find it hilarious) and I don't think Friends is a clever as say The a big bang (I love comedy!)

BBT is very sexist, with a twist (Penny is the hero) but despite that I do watch it!

The Victorian period is not 'always been around', it's like yesterday in the world calendar. So it might be more accurate to say it's been with us since the Victorian era. But I still doubt the violence and aggression would have been the same in porn.

Dragon3

"As an absolute bare minimum, porn and porn references should be banned in spaces where children might see them. I don't think that this is controversial"

It would appear that anythinh that even attempts to limit other people's freefom yo do whatever they bloody well like, is controversial!

We are now I fear in an era where any limitation must be explained and discussed and any assumption we might make need a to be viewed from all sides! I find it really sad.

Of course any attempts to limit people's freedom is controversial. We are a free market democracy after all.

And of course any possible limitation on people's freedoms needs to be explained and discussed.

I don’t think it’s a freedom of speech, thought and ideas issue in expecting a family shop to not call it’s products after adult materials, regardless of origin. In little m and s’ there isn’t a booze aisle that you can simply avoid with your little ones and depending on the packaging it might well look like a can of soft drink to be picked up and then discussed by children.

Personally I see no good in the world coming from porn and I see a lot of ill. I don’t see why it has to be brought up as a concept in m and s at all. Was the world crying out for porn star martini in a can? It’s hardly the prawn mayo sandwich is it?