Private Eye takes on Madigan ***MNHQ edited title***

[breastfeedingclownfish]

hopefully this is visible

Terfs are more likely to be men?

Where's that come from?

It's try to defusing the situation isn't - kinda twocking the ball into the long grass. Men are more likely to shrug the shoulder with a laconic 'whatever'

Kinder. Gentler. Unless you’re a woman. In which case go fuck yourself.

Now they have dropped 'Acceptance without Exception' this could be Stonewalls new tagline.

So let me get this straight.

Madigan calls women terfs.

But that's really women's fault, hence them claiming that word themselves, rather than it being applied to them.

Which is making Madigan look bad by mistake.

And that's transphobic.

So the women are terfs after all?

And booooooom

They see through the bullshit

So when they say a 'kinder, gentler' politics does that translate as: women should be forced to be kind, men / people with penises get to mouth off online as much as they like and call women with evidence based opinions "pathetic" (pretty unkind, no?).

How could they call someone "pathetic" at a launch about being kinder and expect anyone to take them seriously? I mean surely they get that saying this is very, very unkind.

Nope - you're all wrong

Lily is saying that all Real Women (whether trans or non-trans) are people who agree with Lily.

Contrariwise, people (whatever they say they are or, indeed, identify as) who disagree with Lily are (natch) TERFS. So, presumably, Lily has met more men than women that disagree with Lily. QED

I need a lie-down...

Nice to see Private Eye take Shilly on. Could not be more deserved.

'Kinder. Gentler. Unless you’re a woman. In which case go fuck yourself.'

Yep, that seems to be about the size of it

Poor little LM must have been so upset And pointing out LM's mouthfuls of abuse on Twitter was 'pathetic', was it? Why are they so desperate to protect LM at all costs?

And Lily is a woman.

Lily is not a woman. Lily has never been a woman. Lily will never be a woman. Lily is a transwoman.

Transwomen are not women.

Women do not have penises.

Women are adult human females.

Wait a minute. The chair of an event promoting kinder, gentler politics calls someone "pathetic" for pointing out an example of online abuse? They really are trolling us now aren't they?!

Place marking so my brain can work this out.

Yep June that’s about the size of it. Online chatter is that it was mean to have evidence of Lils’s twitter abuse, though of course this not being our first rodeo we knew that without proof we’d be told we were lying or exaggerating.

I was gobsmacked at the chair calling us pathetic. Gobsmacked. My displeasure is going to be noted by all the grown ups sponsoring the group.

They did say there’s a consultation out but I can’t find it anywhere. Helpful.

Why aren't people like Ian Hislop shouting loudly about this on HIGNFY?

Because it's on the BBC.

Wasn't it just for people who identify as practising kinder, gentle politics? It surely doesn't matter if they're actually doing it. You are if you say you are.

Why aren't people like Ian Hislop shouting loudly about this on HIGNFY?
It would never make the woke edit

pennydrew, they probably go for mumsnet because.... most mums are men?

These people are extraordinary. If you want to be free to abuse people online without anyone challenging you over it then why on earth set up or front an anti-online-abuse forum?

I don't think Hislop particularly cares about women's rights, or women being abused online. He just saw through the bullshit.

Can't believe the called you 'pathetic' Sweary Is that their demonstration of kinder, gentler politics...?

I think that statement about terfs being men blah blah blah knocks off most of the laws of misogyny in one fell swoop

I think more and more people are starting to see the irony of what many activists are peddling.

You really are outside the scope of reason when PE start taking an interest.

As a pp said, I don't think is about PE supporting women's rights, rather it's part of an ongoing campaign to highlight hypocrisy.

I suspect what LM is saying is that we are all "men" in gender terms because we can't possibly be "women" because women are sugar and spice and all things nice.

As we are being all slugs and snails and puppy dog's tails because we disagree with LM, we must be men, init?

We've been transed.

Who was the chair?

LM is wrong if he thinks women are all sugar and spice, has LM not heard of transnorthern women? I'm guessing not, how transnorthernphobic of LM.

Oh my! Would love to know who wrote that - would also love to be a fly on the wall when they’ve been discussing White and McKinnon the past week.