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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Womxn controversy on Newsnight

309 replies

WTFisawomxn · 10/10/2018 22:37

Watching BBC 2 right now.
Looks like it will come up later in the programme.

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FesteringCarbuncle · 11/10/2018 16:51

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Womxn controversy on Newsnight
Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 11/10/2018 17:10

And they say a picture is worth 1000 words

EarlyModernParent · 11/10/2018 17:11

Sorry Dana, I wasn't criticising your post, just responding generally. Don't worry, you are not in trouble! In fact, you are gorgeous, wise, percipient, fabulous, etc. etc.

Melamin · 11/10/2018 17:30

Wow - impressive picture. Where is it from?

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 17:34

My sister was having a stroke watching this. I maybe stoked the flames by sending her a news article about bus ads being banned.

What's beyond 'peak'?

HandsOffMyRights · 11/10/2018 18:13

Bus ads. Now that's what I call transport peak
Or peak fares maybe....

tediousnamechange · 11/10/2018 18:32

My sister was having a stroke watching this.

Maybe that's why they did this...

Bus ads. Now that's what I call transport peak
Or peak fares maybe....

The trans peak express.

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 18:35

I've had to break it to her gently about a certain newspaper and a certain charity. She worked for both a million years ago when they were pro women/lesbian.

She may never recover.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 11/10/2018 18:38

Have you linked her to this?
www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 18:41

Maybe tomorrow when she has calmed down a little.

It's been a rough day and I suspect her other half is currently gently stroking her hair and whispering whale sounds in her warm - or scraping her off the ceiling.

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 19:15

Awwwww bugger it. I should not look at twitter after 6pm...

Womxn controversy on Newsnight
2BorNot2Bvocal · 11/10/2018 19:22

Fekko things have moved on:
"Her Stories responded: “For this year's edition, we chose to use the term 'womxn' in some of our communications around the art auction to reflect our emphasis on inclusivity. As the use of the term has recently created a distraction from the purpose in our work of raising money for these fantastic charities, we are revising our communications to use the term 'women', with confidence that we remain inclusive and focused on our purpose:"
"An H&M spokesperson said: "H&M does not use the term ‘womxn’ in any of our communications."
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/10/womxn-row-companies-worry-word-women-excludes-transgender-people/

numptynuts · 11/10/2018 19:25

I complained to the BBC. Along with many others, I hope!

PersonWithAVulva · 11/10/2018 19:26

Racist racist bullshit this transactivist narrative of transwomen are just like black women!

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 19:29

It's still on Twitter (note to SM person - you can delete tweets). I was about to email them all and ask them to explain why they thought this was a good idea and who suggested it to them. Phew!

I just need to write to the mayor about the evening standard 1000 list (similar questions)...

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 11/10/2018 19:32

There is another bunch using women fekko northern something....
I'm not on twitter but someone here will know

AthelstaneTheUnready · 11/10/2018 19:33

Is it more likely that claiming the word 'women' doesn't include women of colour isn't a racist assumption of SC's, but a deliberate attempt to paint women as racist by claiming that they are the ones excluding women of colour?

Because anti-racism has fought a long time to get itself heard and felt, so if the TRAs could just piggy back on that, well, then women's opinions won't count because they're just a bunch of racists.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 11/10/2018 19:33

Womxn

EarlyModernParent · 11/10/2018 20:03

Is it more likely that claiming the word 'women' doesn't include women of colour isn't a racist assumption of SC's, but a deliberate attempt to paint women as racist by claiming that they are the ones excluding women of colour?

I expect that is the motivation, but it is dismissive to the point of being racist to pop up and blithely assert that notion without bothering to ask or include BAME women in the conversation.

FesteringCarbuncle · 11/10/2018 20:32

LizzieSiddal
Thank you for the Twitter link

The picture is a corker isn't it. I didn't think it needed and explanation. It is from SC own Twitter feed

FekkoTheLawyer · 11/10/2018 20:35

I'm turning on for the night it's been a ranty day.

The sight of m&s selling hijabs for little schoolgirls online - one review suggests the medium size would fit a year 4 or 4 years old - has just put the cherry on top for me.

Danaquestionseverything · 11/10/2018 22:40

earlymodernparent
Gosh don’t apologise lovely. It was after 2am when I was posting so I was probably a bit befuddled. mwah

RedToothBrush · 11/10/2018 22:52

22 charities gagged with an NDA.

Womxn controversy on Newsnight
RedToothBrush · 11/10/2018 22:52

Oops wrong thread.

UpstartCrow · 11/10/2018 22:53

Fascism, almost here.