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PerverseConverse · 07/10/2018 09:38

I've been on this board for a while now and long enough to understand the issues and why women are so vocal about them and angry that our rights are threatened.
I'm frustrated reading on other threads, or on social media that this board is aggressive, shoots down discussion, and calls people names if their views don't match the majority. I can't say that I've seen that myself. All I see is intelligent discussion and persuasive arguments. Any goadiness is appropriately dealt with from what I've read as are any views that don't match reality. Maybe that's what upsets people: that their delusions are challenged with indisputable reality.
I'm still new to feminism and learning daily but I see women fighting for other women and prepared to get flak for that. I see some women who have been well and truly brainwashed by the trans movement and by men and the patriarchy in general. And that's the other criticism: that we are too focused on the trans issue. That makes me angry. The trans issue is the major one affecting women and girls at the moment and it's right that we are focused on it.
These complaints are coming from women who are calling themselves feminists and it baffles me completely that feminists can't understand the biggest threat to women and girls.
Now, I'm aware these so called feminists may well be trolls but I don't think they all are. How can some feminists be so opposed to other feminists passionately protecting their rights? Rights that are for ALL women.

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/10/2018 20:25

fwiw, I'll be basing my next vote on what my particular MP thinks of self-ID
Currently looks like I'll be voting Tory for the first time Hmm
Well, so be it.

AyeRobot · 07/10/2018 20:25

Out of interest, Teddy and Verbeena, if you have concerns about Self ID are you going to (or have you) filled in the consultation?

BrownPaperTeddy · 07/10/2018 20:25

A poster tried to make the point of if 'libfems' stopped calling 'radfems' transphobic, then 'radfems' would stop calling 'libfems' transphobic.

I think that should be "libfems a man".

PersonWithAVulva · 07/10/2018 20:26

I think that should be "libfems a man".

Yeah, have corrected myself, apologies Blush

BrownPaperTeddy · 07/10/2018 20:26

AyeRobot

Thanks yes. I have.

Earlywalker · 07/10/2018 20:27

Another two attached, from someone who’s been very vocal on this thread. Addressing people who said they’d continue to shop with Ocado, despite them wanting the ‘woman’ billboard taken down.

Funny that you tell me not to try and police women’s speech. When the whole point of this thread is discussing that the FWR boards ‘aren’t agressive’ And that you don’t dismiss people. Followed by people saying ‘link?’ ‘proof?’ When people speak of their own experiences of seeing it.

Now these are not awful examples, but all of the others I wanted were deleted.

Say what you like, hate if you like, disagree if you like. We are all entitled to an opinion and although I disagree with a lot of people here I respect your opinion and I respect you for fighting so hard for what you see as the right thing. However, I don’t agree with dismissing that posters have been agressive and dismissive of those who question things on FWR.

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VerbeenaBeeks · 07/10/2018 20:27

Out of interest, Teddy and Verbeena, if you have concerns about Self ID are you going to (or have you) filled in the consultation?

Back in my early days of posting I nearly did, before having eyes opened by a cheerleader poster to the the true state of the boards. Kind of glad I didn't now.

VerbeenaBeeks · 07/10/2018 20:28

That was to a petition by the way against self ID that was circulating, if that's what you meant.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/10/2018 20:28

Yes, I posted that we should agree not to use the insults "transphobic" or "man"
and also remarked that only one of these insults had serious career and legal implications, if found true

imo, it's like calling someone racist for disagreeing about immigration
I'm BAME and I strongly object to people using the very powerful word "racist" when untrue

BrownPaperTeddy · 07/10/2018 20:29

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer

Then you would have seen the post that you are insisting isn't there. As PersonWithAVulva has precised for you.

Clearly it's there because they've seen it.

littlbrowndog · 07/10/2018 20:29

See if weetabix is mentioned omg. There will be death raining from the sky on that weetabix factory of hell

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/10/2018 20:29

Well what else is it if you get accused of not answering or try again, as it's wishy washy and doesn't mean anything

Well...if you are accused of not answering maybe its because you haven't answered (im not saying you havent...just can't see it and i really dont want to read the whole thread again...took me bloody long enough the first time!!)

Dunno about the wishy washy bit...im guessing you dont feel it was whishy washy

But i cant say for sure as ive obviously missed the many many times someone answering

I just want a clue really

littlbrowndog · 07/10/2018 20:30

Och fill it in verbeena
Dont be afraid
Tis anonymous

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/10/2018 20:30

Saying i bet it isn't there isnt the same as saying it isnt there

I do think though that quite often not there....

But i will have a look at what person said

PersonWithAVulva · 07/10/2018 20:30

However, I don’t agree with dismissing that posters have been agressive and dismissive of those who question things on FWR.

I don't disagree that some posters have at times came across as aggressive. I do not, however see much wrong in the more recent posts you have screenshotted. The first one you screenshoted, as I said, was in reply to (again) someone yelling 'transphobe' at women with concerns.

What I disagree with is that a couple of more forceful posters, means FWR is aggressive.

And I disagree 100% with those moaning about how there are too many trans threads but then refusing to make any threads themselves. Obviously they are free to have the opinion that other women focus too much on areas that are imminent and very important to them...but to then refuse to actually start threads about what they apparently think is important..well.

AyeRobot · 07/10/2018 20:32

Excellent. The more the merrier. Hope everyone does if they have concerns wherever their definition of woman ends.

Then we'll all be happy, won't we? Or happier? Even those who think that the GRA is a load of cobblers will get back to the rest of the stuff affecting women once self id has been shelved.

LangCleg · 07/10/2018 20:33

I like being aggressive. And?

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/10/2018 20:33

Really

That waas the answer

You just dont want people posting about stuff you dont want them posting about

That was the answer

No wonder i couldnt fucking find it!

Abject apologies brown if that was the answer

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2018 20:34

Another two attached, from someone who’s been very vocal on this thread.

Just like to point out that they're not my posts, although I don't really see anything wrong with them. As I have probably been most "vocal" on the thread.

BigChocFrenzy · 07/10/2018 20:34

You can pick out agressive posters on any board
I never bothered to screenshot those using "transphobe" or "literal violence" but we've all seen them

There are LibFems who insult Radfems and try to police what we discuss or post
There are Radfems who do likewise to Libfems

This is a lively board, that gets the most hits on MN after iirc AIBU and Chat
So FWR attracts more than it puts off - we used to have far fewer hits

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/10/2018 20:35

lang had better not have the last word

And it had better not be weetabix

BrownPaperTeddy · 07/10/2018 20:35

PersonWithAVulva

But I would have posted about other things if I hadn't been on the receiving end. When a thread that I was on was deleted another was started that I was repeatedly @ed in to draw my attention to. In the end I hid it and name changed.

Is that behaviour ok? And you wonder why I'm reluctant to start again?

PersonWithAVulva · 07/10/2018 20:35

Even those who think that the GRA is a load of cobblers will get back to the rest of the stuff affecting women once self id has been shelved.

I cannot wait for this, tbh. I am sick of discussing trans stuff. As I am sure many others are. But for me, its too important not to discuss right now. The sooner this mens rights movememnt is ended, the better. Though transactivism will not go away even if self ID is stopped in its tracks, so I have a feeling its going to be going for a long time yet. They already have convinced various organisations, businesses and schools that single sex areas are illegal. We are going to have to fight very hard to end this nonsense I think. That, or start again with single sex services.

deepwatersolo · 07/10/2018 20:35

A phobia is an irrational hatred and aversion. How can asserting the facts and boundaries layed done by nature be equated to a phobia?

This is how Galileo Galilei must have felt when the Church deemed ‚his‘ heliocentrism an insult of God.

littlbrowndog · 07/10/2018 20:35

Lols rufus
It’s 39 pages of STUFF
who the heck knows what the heck is happening anymore

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