Stephanie Hayden takes Graham Linehan to court for doxxing

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

Their statement is here:

twitter.com/flyinglawyer73/status/1046792462067519489?s=19

Me! I want a light up my arse

I want that, too!!! And how different from glow worms are we, anyway? We share 60% of our genes with fruit flies. We're all basically mostly fruit flies, so to speak.

showing of my photo privilege button again

I’ve replaced my name as woman I don’t want to make those I’ve blanked out that I’m more self important than them. This one is titled the baiter who tries to hard

That thread of tweets does doesn't indicate the best of mental health does it?
It's all so frothing and unprofessional looking. Does appeal SHs audience though.

Ones with ‘fame hungry’ are lawyer related, ‘bossy jossy’ is another coat tales of the ‘one who got his arsed owned’ on sky by Posie.

The others are desperate to try clutch onto coat tails.

I didn’t not entertain Last nights from a transwoman (not sure how far down the trans road) with proud announcement of being sex worker... I nodded off before end of their tweet story

I love how the argument that animal x does it so it must happen in humans is accepted by these people.

A couple of years back, it was all about strawberries.

I kid you not.

A couple of years back, it was all about strawberries.

Ah ok, I entered the debate well after clown fish, I believe. Only a hand full was left to trot it out. The new thing back then was 'sex being a spectrum' in humans and the patent impossibility of knowing your actual sex without karyotyping. So, I was rather late in the game, eh?

@LangCleg @deepwatersolo Oh please summarise for me! I'm a newb x

But you do realise you just admitted to using a VPN

ROFL - I have 3 VPNs installed right now, for different uses, depending on what I want to do/where I need to do it. There's nothing secret or dodgy or complicated about a VPN!

Anyone who works from home should be using one for a start.

It looks like a High Court form to me. It does appear to be a real form. Defamation would need to be filed in the High Court

Aah yes I see...bit interested though in costing up the distress caused for a non-financial loss.

There was alot of distress going round at the removal of the definition of woman.

ROFL - I have 3 VPNs installed right now, for different uses, depending on what I want to do/where I need to do it. There's nothing secret or dodgy or complicated about a VPN!

Same here. Without VPN I could not e.g. access specific databases / articles at home that my employer provides for computers with work specific IP. I very often do other stuff via the connection, too, 'cause I can't be arsed to log out and log in repeatedly depending on purpose. Nothing sinister about it. (Though I once read internet surveillance by agencies seems to be particularly interested in VPN users. To which I say, dear agencies have fun reading those articles and browsing my amazon shopping list).

So basically, you cannot know what sex you are, adulthumanfemail. Without karyotyping, which determines your chromosome set, it is unknowable. Even with karyotying, there could be a mosaicism (so a mixture of, say, XX and XY cells) in your body. And it could really be anything, because in some Nature paper they found that mosaicisms exist. And there is even one paper, where a woman bore a child, and both, mother and daughter have XY mosaicism.

For some reason, the fact that said woman produced an egg (definition of female), conceived said child through her vagina and gestated the embryo in her uterus still does not mean she is female.

And oh those intersex conditions... Somehow, TRAs always hide behind intersex conditions. No matter how many children they have fathered - they are probably somewhere in the middle regarding the 'sex spectrum'.

As for clownfish: Clownshish can change sex (and so can humans, apparently).

Not sure about straberries, that was before my time.

Thanks for that summary deepwater, I've always been intrigued by references to clownfish - but now I'm even more intrigued by what strawberries have to do with it!

(And a note on cyber security - if you connect with public WiFi you should always have a VPN on. Currently I'm in a Costa but my IP address would tell you otherwise. And if the security services are interested 👋 I'm actually rather boring)

I want that, too!!! And how different from glow worms are we, anyway?

There’s a mere 500 or more million years since we’ve shared a common ancestor. We are practically identical.

I swing between mocking the idiocy and actually being quite sad at the lack of critical thinking and scientific knowledge. Then back to angry.

What was the deal with the strawberries ? I’m intruiged

Are we not allowed to use VPNs now? That's going to come as a nasty shock to my employers who demand that I use one if I wish to access sensitive databases while working off site. Shall I let them know that a reactionary random who has only the most tenuous grasp on reality says it's naughty? Shall I let you know when my boss stops laughing?

The one I liked was a the crocodile one. Because sex isn't determined by an accident of sexual reproduction, but by the temperature the egg was kept at during the time it matured, so therefore, genes mean nothing and we're all reptiles and therefore changing sex is totes possible, innit.

The Dunning-Kruger effect, I think.

Molokonono

It seems to be a small claims court form

LMFAO this reminds of an old comeback line I used to give to the Jess Bradley types that couldn't keep their bits in their trousers.

@molokonono

It has been issued in the High Court because it has been assigned to a Master. The form is stamped and looks genuine to me.

I think defamation might be a hard claim to win (though I’m not a defamation lawyer), more interesting will be the harassment claim given that I think GL has misgendered her etc. Harassment includes alarming someone or causing someone distress. Court will have to assess if a reasonable person in possession of GL’s knowledge would think it amounted to harassment. Probably the stronger part of SH’s claim.

Given SH’s conduct eg the posting of GL’s wife’s details, GL may be well advised to file a counterclaim for harassment.

Either way, GL’s legal costs are likely to be significant. There will very likely be an order that SH pay them if she is not successful. She is taking a very big risk and I cannot believe she thinks it is worth it.

McTufty, I think SH relies on these things not coming within a sniff of a court, and them getting a signed thing they can post on Twitter plus some folding money. I wonder if the self identified lawyer has bitten off more than they can chew this time.

It is an old form - 2014 rather than 2016 assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/688390/n1-eng.pdf

No idea if that makes any difference.

Surely Stephanie is old enough to remember Jonathan Aitkin and Jeffrey Archer?

Strawberries?

Looking at their previous their behaviour that they've broadcast on Twitter, it looks like their modus operandi is to file with the courts and come to a settlement out of court with an agreement for the person not to tweet, retweet or quote tweet.

I'm not sure that this will work in this case because previous people seemed not to have the financial resources to let it go to court. Glinner does.

Plus defamation has to prove that there has been a direct financial loss as a result. Oh and it's not defamation if it's true...

I wonder if this could apply?...

Clean hands, sometimes called the clean hands doctrine or the dirty hands doctrine, is an equitable defense in which the defendant argues that the plaintiff is not entitled to obtain an equitable remedy because the plaintiff is acting unethically or has acted in bad faith with respect to the subject of the complaint.

Can someone explain the strawberry thing? Sounds entertainingly batshit.