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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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arranfan · 01/10/2018 14:47

For the same reason that the attackers in this story were reported as women because they told British Transport Police that they were:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3289023-Group-of-women-attack-a-man

Linking the news story as link seems to have gone from thread (but that might be my dodgy internet connection):

www.lbc.co.uk/news/crime-caught-camera/tube-horror-women-man-attack-leicester-square/

Carrrotsandcauliflower · 01/10/2018 14:47

Pinkgeorge-I’m still laughing at that through to reading the end of the thread.

Orlandointhewilderness · 01/10/2018 14:47

That is a dude. Very very definitely a dude. And a butt ugly one at that. There is NO way on this earth that is a woman, I don't care what shit he is telling people to get what he wants.

Jarveau · 01/10/2018 14:48

Surely this lady should be placed in the youth custody service if she identified as a minor? If not, why not?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/10/2018 14:48

"Why are newspapers and the courts referring to a man as a women just because he says so?"

Because they're all jumping the gun and assuming that the self-ID changes to the GRA WILL go through, so they're all being as "woke" as possible to get with the programme.

Jarveau · 01/10/2018 14:50

I'm interested to know where the line is drawn with "misgendering" on MN. Because that's a man, and to ask us to call him "she" is beyond ludicrous.

Reaa · 01/10/2018 14:50

To who ever mention it earlier, I agree the statistics for crimes against children/anyone really, caused by females, will be going up.

noeffingidea · 01/10/2018 14:53

This is a man, and everyone knows it. Why is the government enabling shit like this? They're just becoming complicit in sexual abuse now as far as I'm concerned.
No one who has been investigated or convicted of violence or sexual offences should be allowed to change their gender or identify as the opposite gender. And that includes those women who think it's ok to pretend they are men and commit assault by penetration. End of story.

Theinconstantgardener · 01/10/2018 14:55

the press are just reinforcing this ridiculous and dangerous ideology

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 14:56

I think this part of the trans-specific guidelines would pertain in reference to this thread:
'What about, for example, Ian Huntley – is it ok to say he is a man and call him 'he'?
We think we've allowed for flexibility and context here; we’re unlikely to delete where an individual is primarily known for extreme or criminal actions undertaken before they transitioned.'

In this case, this man had committed a horrible offence before 'transitioning'.
I'd really hope that in general, no one would ever be deleted let alone banned for referring to a male convicted of sexual offences as 'a man'.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 01/10/2018 14:57

This is a man. If you delete me for that, MNHQ, I will think you have taken leave of your senses.

And how can anyone ever have decided it is in the public interest to report such cases as women?

sunglasses123 · 01/10/2018 14:58

I am heartily sick of this self identifying nonsense. It seems the rights of a very small % trump everyone else's rights. Girl Guides was last week. The liberals are claiming we need to understand and support these people (until it is found that a 16 year old boy claiming to be a girl) and is put in the next bed beside their own daughter.

I agree with others. This isn't going to end well.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 14:58

I've reported my last post to ask if MNHQ would like to clarify.

arranfan · 01/10/2018 14:59

The Police are so ahead of the curve that when a rapist escaped from prison, the safety of the public was subordinate to the need to use appropriate pronouns and descriptions. The warning informed the public that the rapist was a 'woman who sometimes disguised herself as a man'...

Can anyone recall who that was?

noeffingidea · 01/10/2018 14:59

I notice there are 4 comments on this article and every single one states that this is a male.
This is what I am getting increasingly pissed off by. Most MPs from all political parties, the NHS, some police forces, the media, councils, education authorities, etc etc are all going along with this shit when the vast majority of ordinary people with a modicum of common sense can see quite clearly what a crock of shit it really is. FFS wake up you bastards and stop treating us like idiots.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 15:01

the press are just reinforcing this ridiculous and dangerous ideology

I rather think that by including the photograph, as well as details of previous name and crime, this item is highlighting just how ridiculous and dangerous it is.

OvaHere · 01/10/2018 15:01

Woah. Where to even begin about this one?

This country has truly lost the plot.

FissionChips · 01/10/2018 15:01

So now are we really facing trans paedophile being able to access young children and babies whilst INSIDE prison and abuse them? If this is the case, then how can it be that their wishes are put over and above the safety of the children in the prisons.

My god how has it come this..that we even discussing the possibility

It’s not a possibility, it is a reality. Already there has been a pedophile transwoman houses in a women prison that has a mother and baby unit, it’s linked upthread.

FissionChips · 01/10/2018 15:01

Housed*^

deepwatersolo · 01/10/2018 15:01

And what nobody has ever been able to answer me: Why do we accept self-ID when it comes to sex, but not when it comes to age?

I swear I still feel like 18. And yet nobody will sell me a cheap flight ticket, even though the age limit is 26, 8 years older than I self-ID as!!!
Why?

ChilliJamandAvocado · 01/10/2018 15:03

Macro-scale gaslighting.

They're trying to tell us that what our senses are clearly telling us are wrong. Same dynamic as an abusive relationship, writ large. No to this bullshit Angry

arranfan · 01/10/2018 15:05

If Jacinta B is very lucky, like Karen Jones, JB might even eventually be invited to the House of Lords by Lord Patel to consult on the rights of transgender prisoners.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3180050-Invited-to-talk-at-the-House-of-Lords

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3370661-2009-case-of-a-judge-ordering-an-intact-male-rapist-into-a-female-prison-because-he-had-a-GRC

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 15:05

The warning informed the public that the rapist was a 'woman who sometimes disguised herself as a man'...

I think this was Craig John Hauxwell, aka 'Lisa'.

noeffingidea · 01/10/2018 15:05

Macro-scale gaslighting
You're completely right. I am so sick of it. We are not fucking stupid, stop treating us as if we are.

Ginslinger · 01/10/2018 15:07

That is a photograph of a man.