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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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Gileswithachainsaw · 01/10/2018 16:18

That is a man

An actual man

With a penis

Man .male. xy.

Angry will not use any pronoun but he

TwistedStitch · 01/10/2018 16:32

Arggghh. This has just prompted me to go full GC on the Facebook article in my own name. I don't even care anymore. Anyone who wants to unfriend me over that can get lost. What a load of gaslighting bollocks and further abuse of his victims.

ADastardlyThing · 01/10/2018 16:36

What? A transwoman pretended to be a male? So they were themselves then? Confused

VickyEadie · 01/10/2018 16:37

Should we send this to every politician who has said TWAW?

wejammin · 01/10/2018 16:39

This is horrendous, and my thoughts are with the victim and their family, it's sickening. How many more is too many, before the woke, wake up?

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 01/10/2018 16:48

Why is the journalist allowed to get away with calling this person 'she'?

TurfClub · 01/10/2018 16:49

Another, er, woman, turned up on Twitter to tell us why the word woman is literally meaningless.

twitter.com/geekethics/status/1046778255980806145

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl
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LatinForTelly · 01/10/2018 16:49

Surely if this person doesn't have a GRC, it can't be logged as a female crime? Am I missing something?

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 01/10/2018 16:51

Could you get the title amended to put woman in inverted commas, or would MNHQ not allow that?

Sarahjconnor · 01/10/2018 16:51

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PutYourShirtOnMartin · 01/10/2018 16:53

So
'Man pretends to be a woman who pretends to be a boy to prey on a young girl'

You really couldn't make this shit up

#itwillneverhappen

#itshouldneverfuckinghappen!

This is a MAN
Not a WOMAN

OvaHere · 01/10/2018 16:54

For her next billboard I suggest Posie does a TWAW one complete with this photo.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/10/2018 16:54

If this person says they are a woman then they are a woman.

There is NO qualifier necessary in terms of clothes, shaving, operations, anything.

If this person says they are a woman then they are a woman.

This crime was committed by a woman.
The child in the case MUST refer to them as a woman otherwise hate crime literal violence.
If they go to prison they must go to a womens prison.

Either men are women if they say so or they are not.
There can be no picking and choosing.
A man who looks more feminine is still a man and still a MUCH higher risk of being violent / sex criminal than a cunty person.
Saying oh well if they shave their legs and simper yes they are a woman NO THEY FUCKING WELL AREN'T.

"A sex offender who claims to be transgender" says the Metro after complaints and a rewrite.
If this man was prettier would they be writing it all as she still?

No fuck that.
You can't change sex.
End of story.

Also - it doesn't say in the piece what the punishment was apart from passwords on social media or something. Haven't they gone to prison? If not why the fuck not? They have previous form for sex offences and have done 13 years, so not trivial by any stretch of the imaginaiton. Surely back to prison they should go. (Although in this case, they should have been locked in with the women... and that's a point > there was a case where a transgender woman didn't get time as they didn't know where to put her, I think. Could this have happened here?).

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 01/10/2018 16:59

Nothing

Yes. You are right. And rather than IW standing up and saying how fucking messed up that is, she's so bloody happy about the fact she's done the necessary massive facial surgical interventions to pass she wants women being mean to her to be the problem.

The problem is the absurdity of codifying a persons belief that they are a woman gender into law, without asking women. They snuck the GRA in and now this is where we are.

sexnotgender · 01/10/2018 17:00

What a rancid fucking excuse for a man.

What exactly qualifies him as woman?

heresyandwitchcraft · 01/10/2018 17:01

This is actually insane.
In no universe am I going to feel comfortable with "Jacinta Brooks" having unfettered access to my spaces.
For the love of God, please tell me this person is NOT going to a female prison.

Sarahconnor1 · 01/10/2018 17:03

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6227957/Transgender-sex-offender-41-groomed-12-year-old-schoolgirl-jailed-11-years.html

Mail online are reporting. Wonder if the BBC or Guardian will

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 17:03

MNHQ have responded to my post upthread (I reported the one in which I cited the guidelines re Huntley). As I thought:

Thanks for your question - yes, you're quite right. As we say in the guidelines, we take everything in context - and certainly, in this context, we wouldn't insist on chosen pronouns for a convicted serial sex offender. Do let us know if you have any further questions.

And while that may only mention pronouns, I'll join the rest of you saying 'that's a man'.

I'm of the opinion that any male convicted of sex crimes (whether against women, children or men) has forfeited the right to any courtesy in how others choose to address him. He shouldn't be allowed to obscure his past by assuming a new 'identity'. (Same would go for any woman, but I've not heard of any cases of women sex offenders transitioning so that's somewhat theoretical.)

LangCleg · 01/10/2018 17:04

"A sex offender who claims to be transgender" says the Metro after complaints and a rewrite. If this man was prettier would they be writing it all as she still?

Indeed.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/10/2018 17:04

"Surely if this person doesn't have a GRC, it can't be logged as a female crime? Am I missing something?"

crimes are now logged on the "gender" the person says they are (even though it's sex that's important) and have been for some time.

Hence the sudden upswing in "women" convicted of sex offences including rape (has to be with a penis in UK and although women can get done for joint enterprise it is very rare).

There are "women" in prison in the women's estate who have cocks without GRCs as we speak. Karen white didn't have a grc for eg and was a rapist paedophile.

Most orgs -> prisons schools women's orgs political parties hosp wards etc have got AHEAD of the law in putting self ID into place and eveb furtehr as self ID will need a declaration if it happens, these orgs are all going on the say-so of any man who rocks up and wants in to where the women and girls are.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 17:05

Haven't they gone to prison?

I think it said an 11year sentence, but didn't say where.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 01/10/2018 17:05

Man + Paedophilia == Woman

LangCleg · 01/10/2018 17:07

Thanks for your question - yes, you're quite right. As we say in the guidelines, we take everything in context - and certainly, in this context, we wouldn't insist on chosen pronouns for a convicted serial sex offender.

But how do they square this with crossdressing being the most common paraphilia among sex offenders? Crossdressers are trans, according to self-ID definitions. But we're not allowed to draw the connection - unless it's post hoc and the dangerous bloke has already been caught.

JFC.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/10/2018 17:09

" Thanks for your question - yes, you're quite right. As we say in the guidelines, we take everything in context - and certainly, in this context, we wouldn't insist on chosen pronouns for a convicted serial sex offender. Do let us know if you have any further questions."

But this is the point. There can be NO picking and choosing the same as if a cunty person does something wrong they don't become "not" a woman.

Sex descriptors are straightforward. Women > cunt. Man > dick. Surgery to get facsimiles of the other does not make any difference.

It's all or nothing .

I do NOT want to have some kind of line where the feminine framed sex offenders with cocks can come in with the women and the otehrs are out.That is illogical. IF TWAW and everyone chooses then THIS IS A WOMAN THE SAME AS ANY OTHER TRANSWOMAN.

It really is as simple as that.

I say NONE of them are women and I want sex back as the determinant and male on male violence to be tackled if TW are too scared to go in the gents.

I do NOT want any TW in with women or girls irrespective of how "pretty" they are I have lost patience entirely with this whole shitshow.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/10/2018 17:09

Errol > that's good.

Now, are they in a women's prison.

I would think yes.