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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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Wineloffa · 01/10/2018 17:11

What the fuck?

I’ve delurked for this! A man pretending to be a woman, pretending to be a boy???

It’s a pity this wasn’t sitting beside Posie on This Morning. The entire nation would have been peak transed.

UsuallyContent · 01/10/2018 17:14

Wow. Awful that this will be report3d as a woman. Crime statistics will make it look like women dont even need safe spaces because 'women' are dangerous too 🤔

Danaquestionseverything · 01/10/2018 17:15

Ugh Jesus. The whole world would peak from that. FGS that’s the image of the hillbilly banjo player that we all pictured reading VC Andrews books in our teens.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 01/10/2018 17:16

Nothing

Me too

NotTerfNorCis · 01/10/2018 17:20

Fuck's sake.

When I read the thread title I thought, it's very unusual for a woman to commit that kind of crime.

Turns out, it still is.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 01/10/2018 17:21

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Starlive23 · 01/10/2018 17:23

I'm speechless...

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/10/2018 17:29

"Crime statistics will make it look like women dont even need safe spaces because 'women' are dangerous too"

YES this is the endgame or one of them, and it's an MRA endgame. "It's a people problem".

We already had people saying Karen White's sex / trans status was irrelevant,they're a woman as they say they are, therefore cruel and unusual treatment to put them in a mens prison, and if there is violence in prisons that must be addressed.

It is ABSOLUTELY part of all of this to OBSCURE the FACT of male violence. "Women do it too" Yes but not very fucking often and with sex offences usually at the behest of a man. The overwhelming majortity - to the point where saying "women do it too" is actually really disingenous as the stats are so stark - of sex offenders are MEN - dicky ones.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/10/2018 17:32

Nothing - I agree with you. But at least we're not forced to politely lie or dodge the issue in cases like this.

DietCoke87 · 01/10/2018 17:34

Someone please tell me she won't be housed in a women's prisons to serve her 11-year sentence

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deepwatersolo · 01/10/2018 17:35

" Thanks for your question - yes, you're quite right. As we say in the guidelines, we take everything in context - and certainly, in this context, we wouldn't insist on chosen pronouns for a convicted serial sex offender. Do let us know if you have any further questions."

That basically boils down to the no true scotsman argument. You are unquestionably a woman, until you have committed a sexual offence twice (or whatever 'serial' means). Then you are suddenly a man again.

rightreckoner · 01/10/2018 17:35

He / his

Lazypoolday · 01/10/2018 17:36

Another one that will be recorded as a female crime. I also have my suspicions about, the "UKs youngest female paedophile story from the other day link here

This is where we are when the word "female" no longer means anything

Now100 · 01/10/2018 17:37

we wouldn't insist on chosen pronouns for a convicted serial sex offender.

So, what I want to know is at what point is the crime bad enough for that to override respecting requested pronouns?

There seems to be a scale: commits no crimes and looks convincing as a woman = she

Commits no crimes but makes zero effort = he (Danielle Muscat's?)

Commits minor criminal offences + reasonably convincing = she

Commits major sexual offences = he.

Surely we can't be defining how we address people like this?

rightreckoner · 01/10/2018 17:37

So they are women until they are mean and then, according to MNHQ, they can be men again. MNHQ this cannot sustain.

Echobelly · 01/10/2018 17:38

I really do think that no one who is on the sex offenders register should be allowed to transition or identify as a woman - it's never going to come to any good for anyone, and probably the opposite.

TurfClub · 01/10/2018 17:38

"So they are women until they are mean "

Eh, what about Tara Hudson, the violent, er, woman.

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 17:39

With the 7-inch surprise.

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rightreckoner · 01/10/2018 17:39

Commits crimes and then repents - female again.

Commits crimes and then repents but with their fingers - male ?

Commits crimes and then repents but with their fingers crossed but no one saw - female?

OvaHere · 01/10/2018 17:40

Another link to that story Lazy. I'm iffy about that one too.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/7362829/uk-youngest-female-paedophile-alysia-smedley-jailed/

zzzzz · 01/10/2018 17:40

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rightreckoner · 01/10/2018 17:40

Fingers crossed

Branleuse · 01/10/2018 17:42

It seems to be that women with penises seem to be much more likely to commit these sort of crimes than women with vaginas or men with vaginas.

I wish there was an easy way to differentiate them for statistics etc

ScienceIsTruth · 01/10/2018 17:43

I'm sorry, that is a MAN. I absolutely refuse to call that piece of anything other than what he is. He's an adult human male; a man.

I was surprised by the title, and thought "that's unusual!". Should've known, really.

Pacers · 01/10/2018 17:44

Bloody hell, I am incandescent.

I have a daughter of a similar age to the poor child in this story.

I did an AIBU a few months ago on how to help her trust her instincts when a “man” is in a woman-only space, and was roundly told to ensure she was respectful and non-bigoted and basically get over it.

While you dance around with your sophistry and your whataboutery and your appeals for niceness, make no mistake. What people like this man will hear is that you will smooth his path to access whoever would otherwise be at least partially protected from him.

ENOUGH

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