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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman, 41, pretended to be a boy to groom a girl

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TurfClub · 01/10/2018 13:50

Jacinta Brooks is a serial paedophile

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

"Prosecutor Berenice Mulvanny said that police found screenshots of the conversation with the girl along with hundreds of child abuse pictures. Brooks gave no comment during a police interview but admitted she ‘couldn’t argue’ about being attracted to children. Miss Mulvanny said: ‘Brooks knew the girl was underage but sent her sexual messages. The defendant originally pretended to be a 14-year-old boy but soon admitted her real age.’

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HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 16:50

But this is socially unprecedented? So there has to be somebody monitoring the whole situation surely? There has to be a file somewhere that we can pull out when this whole bizarre damaging zeitgeist is put to rest.

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 16:52

So there has to be somebody monitoring the whole situation surely?

Whomever that it is, it is neither the police nor the prison service nor the courts.

Freedom of information requests have failed because they are not recording the data.

I. Kid. You. Not.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 16:54

That is fucking crazy.

arranfan · 02/10/2018 16:54

So there has to be somebody monitoring the whole situation surely? There has to be a file somewhere that we can pull out when this whole bizarre damaging zeitgeist is put to rest.

I have to agree with LangCleg - you only have to watch the performance of the Welsh Jnr Secretary for Prisons at a recent Select Committee hearing and to look at MoJ's own reports to know that they feel they are not allowed to collect statistics as they're potentially too identifying etc.

Sarahjconnor · 02/10/2018 16:57

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HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 16:58

What’s wrong with transwomen as a category? That’s not challenging the idea that transwomen are women and many transwomen refer to themselves as such.

R0wantrees · 02/10/2018 16:59

Somebody somewhere is atleast putting an asterisk next to women in these stats, surely? I mean, come on!

The only way for this to happen would be for public services incl. Ministry of Justice, Police, Passport Authority, NHS, Education etce etc to record sex as well as gender identity.

I don't think they can.

Now100 · 02/10/2018 16:59

Also from that AlleLia Twitter:
If we give them an inch they will take a mile. I will not budge on trans rights.

I think Allelia actually gives a clue as to how it has worked so far, women have been giving inches and the mile taken is rapists in women's prisons.

FloraHiggins · 02/10/2018 16:59

Because TWAW. Not trans women. How dare you be so offensive etc etc

LangCleg · 02/10/2018 17:07

That is fucking crazy.

Yes, it is. It is also happening and the people who lead us have ignored the thousands of people before you who have asked this question in shock.

Really.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 17:21

But in order for TWAW to even stand (let’s set aside for a moment the BS) then there has to be such a thing as transwomen. Therefore we can use transwomen, no? Otherwise it’s just women are women....

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 17:24

"But this is socially unprecedented? So there has to be somebody monitoring the whole situation surely? There has to be a file somewhere that we can pull out when this whole bizarre damaging zeitgeist is put to rest."

No.

This is what my husband keeps saying / thinking is that "someone will put a stop to this" or "it won't be allowed" etc

That's not works.

You need people bringing test cases / and whatever the things are to do it / complaints to test the checks and balances and what have you.

Like Labour Self ID for all women shortlists. That was illegal > it was a specific single SEX exemption due to women's low representation. They changed it to single GENDER by themselves. But laws don't work with reports, complaints, investigations, court cases.

If these are not brought then the assumption is it doesn't matter / no-one cares / no-one's interested and that's that.

Meanwhile you have whole groups set up to lobby for laws that the activists want, to talk to politicians and groups behind the scenes, to bring test cases and all the rest of it. They have been doing this for years strategically. There is the transwomen in the council in ?cambridge who deliberately and quietly changed sex to gender on their euqlities stuff (misquoting the law) so that transwomen could access anything and everything targeted at women. You have Steven thingy the transman who has been pulling strings quietly in the background seemingly so desperate for what, validation, that safeguarding for children is a reasonable thing to lose if they achieve their aims.

There are whole law groups for trans stuff - TELI is it with that Jess thingy who likes to wank at bus stops > looking into laws seeing how they can be bent shaped changed.

Women of course we have onyl just caught on, we are not organised into groups, most of us dont' know how this stuff works, we are not beign funded by god only knows who to the tune of ££££££££££....

The women's groups around this are grass roots stuff. The activism around trans stuff is ALL to do with fucking everything up for women in terms of the gains we have made in representation and participation AND opening the door to weirdy creepy perverts to anywhere and everywhere we are vulnerable.

And GG swim england the govt everyone says yes that sounds great.

It's fucked up.

WHO thought it was a good idea to collect crime stats based on what the perpetraotr said they felt like rather than what they factually are? WHO made this decision? When ? Why? It's a done deal, it's already happened. This is where we are NOW.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 17:28

TELI: "It is our belief that strategic litigation is a very important tool in the advancement of trans rights, and this will be at the forefront of our efforts as we explore the various issues facing the trans community."

It is sponsored by multiple massive wealthy law firms and corporates.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 17:30

Jess teh Wanker is action for trans health then but has been involved with TELI conference - here 2017

Also on the list are some usual suspects Jane "Legalise extreme porn" fae and Tara "Abortion should be illegal" Hewitt.

2016 Conference Agenda
Time Activity Speakers
9:15
Registration Open - Coffee

9:45
Conference Open and Welcome

David Bufton (Linklaters LLP)
9:50
Outline of TELI

10:00 Introductory Plenary
Ashleigh Talbot (TV Presenter & Journalist)

Bernard Reed OBE (GIRES)

Helen Belcher (Co-founder of Trans Media Watch)

Dr Jay Stewart MBE (CEO - Gendered Intelligence)

Prof. Alex Sharpe (Keele University)

Michelle Brewer (Garden Court Chambers)

12:00
Trans Day of Remembrance

Kate Hutchinson (WipeOut Transphobia)
12:05
Lunch (Provided by Linklaters LLP)

13:00 Health Plenary
Jane Fae (Independent Journalist)

Jess Bradley (Action for Trans Health)

Susie Green (Managing Director of Mermaids)

Tara Hewitt (Equality, Diversity & Inclusion Lead UHSM NHS Foundation Trust)

Sophie Anhoury (Consultant Forensic Psychiatrist, Oxleas NHS Foundation Trust)

14:30
Coffee Break

14:50 Justice, Strategic Litigation and Impact of Exclusionary Provision Plenary
David Bufton (Linklaters LLP)

Stephanie Harrison QC (Garden Court Chambers)

Jane Ryan (Bhatt Murphy Solicitors)

Allan Briddock (One Pump Court)

Becky Kaufmann (Scottish Transgender Alliance)

Peter Kelley (GALOP)

16:20 Coffee Break
16:30 Break-out Session 1: Education
Kate Hutchinson (Director at Wipe Out Transphobia)

Dr Jay Stewart MBE (CEO, Gendered Intelligence)

Susie Green (Managing Director of Mermaids)

Terry Reed OBE (GIRES)

Ashley Reed

16:30 Break-out Session 2: International Protection
Louise Hooper (Garden Court Chambers)

Paul Dillane (Executive Director, UK Lesbian and Gay Immigration Group)

Nina Nasim (UK Lesbian and Gay Immigration Group)

Cathy Jaquiss (10 KBW)

17:45
Conference Closing

18:00
Networking Drinks (Hosted by the Linklaters LGBT Network)

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 17:30

Jesus Christ. I kind of thought someone, somewhere was monitoring this but I momentarily forgot how much people hate women.

HandlebarTash81 · 02/10/2018 17:32

Well let’s hope atleast the mugshots aren’t filtered, then we’ll aim to reverse this fucked up shit storm one day.

BigChocFrenzy · 02/10/2018 17:33

What about the transwomen who also identify as babies - like the Green Party campaign manager & paedophile Challoner.

Will the crime stats show an increase in rape committted by under-twos ? Confused

Can they even be tried at all if this continues, if they self-ID as being below the age of criminal responsibility

The fundamental mistake was when the ruling class accepted / forced acceptance of the TWAW fantasy
All the following logical impossibilities are consequences of TWAW

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 17:34

The mechanisms need to be invoked.

We didn't know to invoke them as it was all doen so quietly and how could we? Average women don't mix in circles that know how to push back against this stuff. Or have the funds.

When we have tried to invoke them > pointing out "hold on this is illegal" we've been told to shut up and fuck off.
What do you do next?
Lots of great women trying all sorts of stuff > writing to and talking to MPs, FPFW, womens place etc etc
But >> it turns out that the law is not really there to help as as per fucking usual. Rape? Oh pretty much legal in practice, soz. Can I get rid of this massive creepy boke from the locked mental health ward? Sorry no and in addition I've put on your notes that you've a bigot and belligerant, your stay might be a bit longer and less pleasant.

Melamin · 02/10/2018 17:39

Jess teh Wanker is action for trans health then but has been involved with TELI conference - here 2017

Jess was one of the founders of TELI - it is mentioned in one of their tweets and screenshotted on one of the Jess threads. All the references were scrubbed off the TELI website after the wanking became public. Jess was Prisons co-convener whatever that is Confused

leonaza · 02/10/2018 17:40

We are going to win this one ladies, I really believe people are waking up to it. Most people seem to have thought transsexuals were people who had gone through transition, it was never supposed to be like this.

And if it goes ahead we march in the streets! I think these TRAs have met their match at thousands of years of pent up female rage! (How funny that they don't understand how we feel...)

This will not stand.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 02/10/2018 17:42

Oh I knew there was a link there.

It's all very incestuous and spider-webby with this stuff.

Jess wants all trans people released from prison IMMEDIATELY I would imagine? I seem to recall that was one of the DEMANDS that action for trans health had.

They were the ones who incited and then applauded a trans activist attacking the woman at speakers corner I think.

leonaza · 02/10/2018 17:46

I think the Metro article has done us a favor in highlighting the Orwellian nature of all of this. The TRAs' flat earther ideology beginning to run right into reality.

I do however feel sad that the radicalism of the TRAs is going to set genuine trans people's rights back, because the closer you look at the TRAs the idea that they are women just becomes more and more ludicrous. I actually did think basically that TWAW, or at least a type of, until I started looking more closely at the TRAs and realized I'd encountered this type of behaviour somewhere before....

nicenewdusters · 02/10/2018 18:16

It doesn't need saying again (actually it does, can't be said enough) but that is a man.

Adult male human. Adult - not 14. Male - not female. Human - no, not going to grant him that one.