Posie on This Morning

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Posie Parker will be on This Morning tomorrow.

Not sure which TRA/AWA will be provided for her to chew up and spit out though.

I liked her saying 'Women are allowed to get angry' in response to Ruth telling her she seemed angry about this. Good for her.

dh's colleagues mainly think she's hot but also that she's obviously right

She did well to get Miranda Yardley’s name in, I hope people google and read what Miranda has to say.

I think Ruth actually said the words ‘and why did you decide to stand up for women?’ or similar.

Media training isn't a bad idea, but a. there probably isn't time and b. looking at the public responses I think that the only people reacting negatively to her presentation are either so sexist nothing she said would get through anyway or already hardcore genderists.

I certainly don't want PP to be nice or acquiescing or polished. I just want her to point out the ways in which natal women's rights are being potentially compromised. If the general public think she is just being nasty and denying personal identity then wtf is the point. I do admire her though because she does everything women have learned not to do to be liked.

Posie was never going to win over Eamonn, Ruth and India. She will have made lots of people watching wake up though.

A pp said Pose should be more empathetic. No way! That's not Posie. Other people can go on talk shows and be more nicey nicey while pointing out Karen White and similar cases are problematic. Not Posie.

Posie's refusal to see it as complicated is what makes her someone normal people can empathise with. Nobody really thinks people can actually change sex. She says it straight out. Bloody refreshing.

It peaks people when they see the likes of Eamonn arguing against a bloody obvious wrongness, e.g. the male officer getting to search a woman because he says he feels like a woman and so it doesn't matter how the woman feels.

Empathy and politeness is what got us here.

I nearly spat out my coffee when Ruth said about how brilliant things are for women after we'd all sat there and watched her being disrespected by her husband on live TV just moments earlier. Presumably Ruth isn't allowed to say Oh fuck off you stupid cockwomble to Eamon on live TV.

Honesty, directness, and a refusal to allow polite fictions to mask ugly reality is what will get us out.

Posie did everything correctly. She just did. She got it all in. Cervix owners, Miranda, Karen White, unconsenting assault by security guards, the lot.

You can't legislate for people not letting her talk, and asking her to comment on something irrelevant. India and her journey is irrelevant to the change in the law.

We don't base rape laws on men who don't rape.

Posie could have done little else. We have her withholding her consent to using the word woman, we have Nic Williams knowing the prison policies inside out and backwards, we have Venice organising talks and using her public platform to raise awareness, and WPUK putting forward some very reasonable proposals.

It's all working. All of it.

I was worried to watch this after reading the comments on here, as I thought it would just make me angry or disappointed at a missed opportunity.

But Posie was ROCKING!!

I think her no compromise, say it straight approach is fantastic. I disagree she needs to do all the 'I understand how hard gender dysphoria is etc' type stuff to make it palatable.

Just hearing some one say on TV the previously unsayable 'they're not women' 'you can't chnage sex' changes everything.

She got a hard time as Ruth and Eamon couldn't cope with this bluntness and so kept trying to take her back to the acceptable 'but let's understand people's journeys and be nice to India because she's right there' position, but she wouldn't do it, and they found that really hard to take.

But my God is Posie Parker moving that Overton Window for us!

She gives No Fucks and I fucking love her for it.

I've just watched it and I think any intelligent person will recognise how well Posie came across and how ridiculous the other three were.

Well done, Posie!

Like "bottom surgery", "top surgery" - sounds reasonable, right? Progressive, innit - painful realities all nicely hidden where they can't upset anyone too much.

"Castration", "elective radical mastectomy" - no hiding what's actually happening there, no getting away from the fact that the surgeries involved are painful and permanent.

She just did. She got it all in. Cervix owners, Miranda, Karen White, unconsenting assault by security guards, the lot.

Wow, she really did cover a lot of ground.

HandsOffMyRights: "I'm not sure GC women should go on This Morning again."

This is the difficulty. Posie has been banned from Mumsnet and banned from Twitter. She put up a billboard and that was taken down. When she was interviewed by James O'Brien on LBC he was horrible and sneering towards her. Now she's been bullied by three antagonistic people on This Morning.

Where can Posie - and other GC feminists – go? For the most part the media aren't covering this issue, and when they are, they're doing it in an extremely biased way. If much of the internet is closed off, and broadcast media is hostile, and you're not even allowed to post up a dictionary definition on a sodding billboard, what are your options?

The twitter thread in direct response is very supportive of Posie.

However, the TRAs are mostly ignoring that thread and instead are tweeting just with #thismorning

So a search on that hashtag makes it look like everyone hates Posie and thinks TWAW.

We should fix that.

Caught it and they were so up India's arse it must've been painful. India was obviously at an intellectual loss. Atm ITV is trying to appeal to the masses after recent developments. Ignoring the salient issues for ratings.

Her stats about the prisons alone should have incited intelligent debate but no.

And the insistence of pointing out her anger, from both of them. Am quite shocked. Yes of course she can be angry if she is, it's an emotion not just allowed for one sex and that shouldn't derail the debate.

'I nearly spat out my coffee when Ruth said about how brilliant things are for women after we'd all sat there and watched her being disrespected by her husband on live TV just moments earlier'

I KNOW! He disrespects her constantly and shamelessly. It's bloody horrible to watch. I enjoyed watching her on Strictly and thought she seemed like a lovely woman. Christ knows what she sees in him.

Posie is really fabulous. I adore her clear, firm, no nonsense tone. She doesn't simper, or flutter her eyelashes, or play nice. She commands respect. And it's most inconvenient that she looks like Marilyn Monroe. There's no way the haters can portray her as an old minger, like they are fond of doing with women who express opinions. I would imagine she looks very differently to how most people imagine feminist activists look, and that alone has to help the cause. More power to her.

Quote retweet the GC comments and add the #thismorning hashtag

The ironic thing is that people like India could become victims of the current trans movement. If being trans is de-medicalised (as it's not a disease like our dear leader Theresa May said) all the help available on the NHS could vanish - be it counselling or surgery.

I wonder if public figures like India realise that their interests and those of the self-id gang do not necessarily align. Miranda Yardley seems to understand this but of course has been silenced.

GC women should definitely go on This Morning again. The presenters sounded brainless. Posie didn't.

A woman speaking the truth while others hand wring and come out with daft shit is exactly what is needed. It exposes the daft shit for what it is and lets ordinary people know it is OK to speak the truth now.

Well I remember when Eamonn and Ruth were fans of Gina Ford. That Mumsnet scandal seems, well, like a sparkly unicorn turd compared to the current state of affairs..

Just watched it again. I loved the way she got in the prison stats and how India had fuck all to respond with . Posie knows her shit and she is amazing.

Anyone just see politics live on ? Bbc 2

Yes Littlbrowndog nice of Matt Zarb-Cousin to tell me how to be a woman and a feminist