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Ocado boycott after support of Primesight action

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PerverseConverse · 25/09/2018 21:59

On discovering today that Ocado are continuing to use Primesight after they removed Standing For Women's billboard, thereby showing they have no respect for women or our rights, I have emailed them to tell them that I will no longer shop with them as they support misogyny. I'm just wondering how many others have done the same and hoping this thread gets picked up by twitter and/or the press.

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RepealtheGRA · 27/09/2018 17:58

Snomade indeed, though it was the AIBU thread that made me think that....

If anybody has saved any money recently #handsoffmyrights crowdfunder still needs to get 1.5k over the next 2 days Smile

Molokonono · 27/09/2018 18:00

My local organic veg box scheme - £17. Booked for next week.

We will probably buy and stock up on the staples - pasta, rice, crackers once a month. We can add cheese and flour etc to the organic box which I will do after the first week.

I'll get milk once a week and will look into going back to the milkman [although we do drink organic all the time and I've already tried to get an organic delivery but to no avail].

The difference is going to women's [the adult female human] type campaigns. I've already given more than our mortgage to women's campaigns this month.

pennydrew · 27/09/2018 18:03

UPDATE: I have been telephoned by Ocado just now, anyone else? Should I start a new thread? They apologised, said the tweet is gone and they preferred to ring everyone personally and explain it was an error and a customer service representatives opinion, not Ocado's opinion. She stated: we do not have an opinion on this.

GulagsMyArse · 27/09/2018 18:07

nope, no response, Trustpilot is getting more reviews I see

DharmaLovesDrarry · 27/09/2018 18:08

I had an email today informing me of their Christmas delivery service, I emailed back asking to be removed from all of their databases as I would no longer be using the services of a company that supports the misogynistic bullying and silencing of women. Had the standard response back.

I am so bloody cross.

ItsLikeNew · 27/09/2018 18:09

UPDATE: I have been telephoned by Ocado just now, anyone else?

yep read back a page or two.

Coldallthetime · 27/09/2018 18:11

If it was an error, they need to tweet and correct that error.
And do more than sit on the fence.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 27/09/2018 18:15

and they preferred to ring everyone personally

This is making me cross. Ocado have fucked up publicly, are (it turns out) lying in their company policies about what the protected characteristics in the Equality Act 2010 are, and now they're making their poor customer service staff deal with all the fallout. Not good enough.

lilllil · 27/09/2018 18:18

Can't even tweet their non-apology? Pathetic!

Zeugma · 27/09/2018 18:18

They are desperately trying to cover their arses with 'personalised' phone-calls. And they can't get their facts right even then.

Pathetic.

Molokonono · 27/09/2018 18:18

After sending them their own apology email, I got a response straight back asking for my contact details as they couldn't identify the account from the copy of the invoice from yesterday's delivery.

i have said yes that was deliberate as I require a written response.

Datun · 27/09/2018 18:22

it was an error and a customer service representatives opinion, not Ocado's opinion. She stated: we do not have an opinion on this.

They don't have an opinion whether or not sex is a protective characteristic and the definition of a woman is an adult human female?

Bloody cowards.

pennydrew · 27/09/2018 18:22

Here's my thought's on their response. They got dragged into something they had no intention of getting into, by one lone member of staff who clearly very definitely has got an opinion on the situation. They did not want to get involved, and I personally do not think they should have to. I would rather companies stayed out of making political statements about something like this. But they were dumped in it. So now they have decided to avoid another huge social media pile-on, and ring customers who wrote in, to explain that they do not have an opinion and it is none of their business. I know some of you may want them to stand up for us etc but they are a business. It isn't actually something they should have an opinion on, in my view. I personally appreciated a phonecall rather than a tweet, because I am not on social media anymore for precisely this reason. All anyone does is argue with each other and tell each other what to think. I believe it was Wetherspoons who deleted all their social media because they found the whole thing unhelpful to their business, and a rather unpleasant way of communicating.

lilllil · 27/09/2018 18:28

They've publicly stated support for a group and won praise for it from TRAs and The Woke.

They then quietly deleted it and are ringing everyone to beg them to stay.

THAT is pathetic, not refusing to "take sides" as such.

StealthNinjaMum · 27/09/2018 18:37

Assuming it was a mistake by a junior employee -

  1. Why have they not publicly apologised?
  2. Why are the using incorrect protected characteristics?

If they had just apologised two days ago this would have been forgotten about. Now we know that their inclusive policy was written by woke lawyers who didn't include 'sex'.

I can't understand why every bloody organisation excludes sex - is there just one inclusivity policy written once that they've all copied?

I expect them to publicly apologise and change their policy to include sex as a protected characteristic.

Then, I might become a customer again.

And hopefully other large companies are learning from this that women as a group will not take this wokeness any more.

RepealtheGRA · 27/09/2018 18:39

I’m boycotting for life now. They could’ve rolled back from the original tweet, but they didn’t.

Since then I have discovered that their CEO was involved in the presidents dinner fiasco, so I don’t believe the original tweet was an error. They also either do not know or have deliberately misrepresented the LAW in this country. That is unacceptable.

What address do I post their vouchers back to?

PerspicaciaTick · 27/09/2018 18:39

I'm not buying that this was all caused by a lone, lowly Twitterjockey who got the tone wrong.
Would a lowly Twitterjockey have made the connection between SFW's billboard and Ocado's own relationship with the supplier?
Would they then have felt confident enough to suggest that Ocado would end their relationship with the supplier?
I suspect that it was all discussed at higher levels in the marketing team...and the tweet (plus cack-handed response to complaints) reflects how Ocado really feels about women.

Beamur · 27/09/2018 18:44

They've rewritten the protected characteristics of the EA too and put it in their emails 'apologising' for their support of the takedown of women. Nice one Ocado. How stupid can you get?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 27/09/2018 18:49

They've publicly stated support for a group and won praise for it from TRAs and The Woke. They then quietly deleted it and are ringing everyone to beg them to stay.

In a nutshell. I get that they are in a very difficult position, but once they made the initial mess of publicly declaring a side there was no way back. By privately trying to calm people down without equally publicly retracting they have stood by that chosen side.

I am so fed up with various public bodies and figures making it clear that they are happy to be noisily anti women activism in the full glare of the media, but only very quietly and privately willing to admit to women out of sight and earshot that they know quite possibly they're not doing the right thing. But shhh.

CrackpotsArePots · 27/09/2018 18:50

I am so fed up with various public bodies and figures making it clear that they are happy to be noisily anti women activism in the full glare of the media, but only very quietly and privately willing to admit to women out of sight and earshot that they know quite possibly they're not doing the right thing. But shhh

Yes. They apparently tried to phone me today

AsAProfessionalFekko · 27/09/2018 18:53

It'd still there. Poor darlings can't find the delete button.

Ocado boycott after support of Primesight action
Floisme · 27/09/2018 18:53

They made a public statement so they should make a public apology. This really shouldn’t be hard.

ShovingLeopard · 27/09/2018 18:58

and they preferred to ring everyone personally

Too right they did. So they can brush it under the carpet, and not risk the wrath of the TRAs. They're hoping we will all forget and they get away with it.

I agree with Perspicacia. No way was this the work of a rogue lowly employee.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 27/09/2018 18:59

I wonder how many calls? How many extra minimum pay call centre workers brought in to read the scripts?

NonaGrey · 27/09/2018 19:00

Big companies don’t have lowly employees manning their Twitter feeds.

Big companies have teams who do this stuff.

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