Girlguiding Issue coming up Good Morning Britain

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About to be discussed 7.40am. Suzzanah Reeves & Piers Morgan

"Helen denying that Jane Fae advised GGUK. It's a shame GGUK haven't managed to do so as far as I know."

Helen is completely full of shit though, a completely ridiculous creature.

Jane said in 2017 that he had spoken to the Guides twitter.com/JaneFae/status/941108179647320064

And this past weekend he apparently said it again.

So why accept the word of Helen as #transoracle?

your arguments fall apart as you are trying to make this fit and only consider hetronormative narratives

LOL.

Bespin You said no you keep making it about abuse and sexualisation of children. your arguments fall apart as you are trying to make this fit and only consider hetronormative narratives Do you believe we should not sex-segregate children and young people at all, therefore?

all girls have a right to privacy and dignity and you don't see trans girls as girls others do and therefore they are all entitled to this. any girl that did not respect that would be a issue

Brave Tweet from @SoniaPoulton in the thread "Susie Green is a modern day threat to children and the Establishment treat her as if she is the Second Coming. Such a betrayal of young people. I am glad some of us are prepared to question this rather than just fall into line for the sake of political correctness."

Sorry inadvertened 'misgendering' there.
Just in case, repost without pronouns:

"Helen denying that Jane Fae advised GGUK. It's a shame GGUK haven't managed to do so as far as I know."

Helen is completely full of shit though, a completely ridiculous creature.

Jane said in 2017 Jane had spoken to the Guides twitter.com/JaneFae/status/941108179647320064

And this past weekend Jane apparently said it again.

So why accept the word of Helen as #transoracle?

Nah, I think we're going to keep talking about the safeguarding of girls and their right to privacy.

I only caught the end, hoping to watch it all on catchup later (and placemarkjng to get this on TIO so I don't forget)

So why accept the word of Helen as #transoracle?

I certainly don't accept her word in anything. I thought it was interesting that she denied it when I don't think GG have.

Bespin you are demonstrating a clear lack of understanding of safeguarding. I hope you don't work with children.

Bespin guides have single sex spaces like tents, and single sex tasks like intimate care for good safeguarding reasons. Do you disagree with those reasons for all children/adults? Or just think they should be suspended if the child says they are trans?

Right I'm just pointing out that Helen posts all kinds of unverified nonsense on her Twitter, it's full of retweets of perverts and paedophiles, she never found a TRA she didn't like

Child or adult.

no you keep making it about abuse and sexualisation of children. your arguments fall apart as you are trying to make this fit and only consider hetronormative narratives

No. We keep making it about what's best for girls.

Any reason you don't want it to be about what's best for girls?

VickyEadie no children are never inherently abusive we make them like that they are often victims of neglect and trauma or exposed to a society where sexualisation is becoming the norm I you wish to address abusive young poeple then I would start there

all girls have a right to privacy and dignity and you don't see trans girls as girls others do and therefore they are all entitled to this. any girl that did not respect that would be a issue

They're male. Women and girls have s right to privacy and dignity in intimate situations. So do men and boys.

Said on another thread but a few of GGUK trustees work at the BBC or have professional links....Just throwing that out there....

Right I'm just pointing out that Helen posts all kinds of unverified nonsense on her Twitter, it's full of retweets of perverts and paedophiles, she never found a TRA she didn't like

I'm sure. I can see her tweets now but haven't always been able to.

I really do want it to be the best for all girls and an inclusive society that protect all young people is what will do that risk is managed on an individual basis and in young people is very complex

Here's Jane also appearing to confirm that Jane has advised the Guides. twitter.com/JaneFae/status/1039790715788845056

Just no. Male teenage bodies do NOT get to share accommodation with female teenage bodies. For the sake of the female teenager’s dignity, privacy and safety from sexual harassment and assault. What will the Guides do when a load of pisstaking boys join up claiming to be girls deliberately so they can bunk in with teenage girls? (i’m couching this so I don’t get deleted )

Victoria Derbyshire talking about bi phobia. Ruth Hunt on now.

I really do want it to be the best for all girls

Then you support the right of women and girls as a sex class to privacy and dignity.

Of course you do. Right?

Bespin are there elements of this discussion that you feel we should be allowed to talk about?

Bespin Tue 25-Sep-18 09:26:26

I really do want it to be the best for all girls

That doesn't include boys, no matter how you try to spin it.