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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India Willoughby meltdown on Twitter re Pips Bunce

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MrGHardy · 22/09/2018 01:23

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1043128498544680960

"He's not a real woman but I am". Smile

ps does anyone know why this is blowing up now? I swear that Pips Bunce had won this award or a similar one or at least was in the news months and months ago.

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MsBeaujangles · 22/09/2018 12:28

Datum, have you included - you'll be forced in to killing yourself if you can't say it?

MsBeaujangles · 22/09/2018 12:30

Datun, damn autocorrect!

Ikeasucks · 22/09/2018 12:31

As i said IW has form for being a twit, a hypocritical twit and anti woman too.

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Datun · 22/09/2018 12:32

MsBeaujangles

Indeed.

And I forgot clutching a piece of paper Neville Chamberlain style, whilst vehemently declaring I'm the only person who can say it

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 22/09/2018 12:54

It’s going mainstream!! The DM have picked it up
This is a massive own goal for Credit Suisse. (Slow handclap)

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 22/09/2018 12:55

Sorry!! Wrong thread

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 13:26

I actually agree with India to an extent. It's serving no-one to pretend that everyone under the umbrella is the same and ought to be treated the same.

There are many different ways to be trans. The middle aged cross-dresser is different from the flamboyant and imaginative dress-wearing boy, is different from the ladypenised misogynist, is different from the old-school transexual just trying to get on with their life.

All very different things. Where India and I part ways is that I know that none of them are women.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 22/09/2018 14:08

There are many different ways to be trans. The middle aged cross-dresser is different from the flamboyant and imaginative dress-wearing boy, is different from the ladypenised misogynist, is different from the old-school transexual just trying to get on with their life.

But for the women or girls coming face to face with a male transperson in female spaces, it's impossible to differentiate between them.

If transpeople want to widen or narrow the definition of trans, fine. Still not a reason for male people to be in female spaces.

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 14:14

Oh, absolutely, zutt. No disagreement here.

The only people for whom it's helpful to collapse and conflate the categories is the ones who are trojan horsing. If you make it impossible to differentiate between dysphoria and a fetish, then it's the person with dysphoria who loses out, because their serious mental health condition gets put on a par with someone who likes popping on his wife's knickers of a weekend.

SophoclesTheFox · 22/09/2018 14:15

But regardless of who gets to decide who is True Trans and who isn't, it's always women who bear the brunt.

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