Mail article; Karen White ‘gender change was a sham’

[Winterlight]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6169813/Rapist-Karen-Whites-ex-girlfriend-says-gender-change-sham.html

Depends on your definition of penis! If not a complete phalloplasty as in attached to the abdomen with no ability to pee etc is that a penis? It also stated that the defendant believed it part of their body. It was STA that stated that the prosthetic was flesh and blood. But hey who knows!

A BLACK PUDDING!

I mean, it's gallows humour, right?

But also - what the fuck else was it if it was made of flesh and blood?

OMG lol

What if Waitrose & M&S naice food aisles inexplicably run out of black pudding tomorrow

Maybe this could be the final thing that triggers women's total independence from men

Got my money
Got my mates
Got my black pudding

What man ever will give up their penis for a 'transplant' to a trans man?

It will never work, You cannot make a penis from the skin on your forearm anyway.

This is all just shit anyway. Grow a beard by taking too much testosterone by way of pills. But growing a beard doesn't make you male.

And back on topic.

Karen White is a sexually abusive male.

That much is true.

Kind of says it all
It's a total joke
Why is it always men who have decided they want to be women
Total sexual fetish and dangerous to real women imo

Re sexual organs.

The insistence that you can "make" a vagina.
Totally overlooking / ignoring the fact it is a complex organ that you can't "make" - a facsimile only
And yet we are told that women have a "front hole" (biologically inaccurate and seeing it only in terms of something you can stick a penis in)

I don't think that it will ever be accepted that a woman can have a penis will it?
Men are very obsessed with theirs - drawing them everywhere, showing them to you randomly when you're going to work, etc
I don't think that there will be the same push to say that a facsimile without function is the same > and that a transman has a penis while men have "piss sticks" or whatever (note: it is whatever, I don't think there has been a push for men to hand over their word and get given a rubbish offensive one instead).

Missed the end off a line!

"And yet we are told that women have a "front hole" (biologically inaccurate and seeing it only in terms of something you can stick a penis in) while transwomen have vaginas".

Meanwhile everyone in the whole world knows what is what not least Karen thingy and the women who were locked in prison with Karen.

You cannot make a penis.

You cannot make a vagina.

Well you can make a penis and a vagina.

It requires sperm, and a uterus. 99% the sperm will be attached to the erect penis, the uterus will be attached to the fallopian tubes, the ovary, the cervix and the vagina.

The penis and the vagina will be made in the uterus. It takes approximately nine months.

placemats

I've just realised I have had two penises. OK, they belonged to my DSs but it's still one more than any man has ever had.

I agree with others than this man should be considered trans as fits with stonewall definition. People need to know the width of this definition to realise how horrifying the self id movement is

"Front hole" is such stupid terminology, like something a 12-year-old who was still a bit scared of swearing would use as an insult. The hole at the front (of the three) is the urethra but they're all kind of... underneath-y?!

Front hole makes me wretch to be frank.

I read somewhere that 'pussy' hats are now 'front hole' hats.

"flesh and blood" prosthetic is probably a realistic-looking stand-to-pee packer.

Yes, front hole is the kind of thing someone who doesn't actually have a vagina would come up with, maybe because a penis is kind of attached to the front (rather than underneath)
Liking the fact that I have personally made not 1 but 2 penises and 2 vulvas also. Go me. Ok, I had help

It's about sex. About women as warm holes to fuck. Men have always referred to us in these terms.

It's only at the "front" if you are only counting holes that you can get a dick in.

It's male language, nasty male language. "Any hole's a goal".

It shows up how male centred and sex centred this movement is (or at least the loud parts of it).

Vaginas aren’t at the front. They’re underneath. Vulvas are at the front.

Just goes to show how little these people know about female biology

It's the "front hole" in relation to the other hole you can get a cock in ie arsehole or "back door".
The people who came up with this are misogynists who only nothing about female biology, don't care about female biology, it's irrelevant, the only interesting thing is where a man can stick his cock.

Yes, you can tell that from the way they completely ignore the urethra, NothingOnTellyAgain, which is the first 'hole' if you're counting front to back. It's a mechanistic way of looking at the female body.

I read somewhere (Mumsnet maybe) that lots of women think they pee out of their vagina. This mystifies me. I can understand men not knowing any better, but surely women can feel where urine comes from. If you've had cystitis you surely have to have noticed your urethra?

Men experienced in cunnilingus are presumably aware of the urethra? I'd imagine they must be.

All this front hole, back hole business is surely only used by men who are sexually inexperienced or (to put it politely) unsophisticated? Men who are any fun in bed take a big interest in their partner's genitals.