Some lighter reading - gender non-confirming goths oppress trans people!

[AngryAttackKittens]

Given how much recent news has been horrifying I thought some of us could do with a laugh, so hear you go - Robert Smith's eyeliner is oppressive to people who want everyone to know that wearing makeup means you're a woman.

www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/06/23/goth_culture_needs_to_embrace_the_gender_identities_of_all_its_members.html

M3lon - when the new genderist ideology becomes law and they come to take your woman-card off you, I expect they’ll take mine too - in fact, I’m pretty much planning on goading them into it by wearing sweatpants and crocks (with legwarmers) from now until then...

Although if I could wax my legs just by taking off said sweatpants, a la AAK’s assertion above, I might get some accidental lady-upgrade-points?

Ha - I have hairy legs and pits AND I don't care who sees them....maybe I really should relinquish my woman card.

The thing is, in order to defend against the ideology I end up using it. Because I do just know, as I have my entire life, that I am female. I am very non-stereotypical, but if anyone suggested I was male, I would definitely say that didn't match my felt experience. This leads me to have a great deal of respect for people who have gender disphoria and have always 'known' they were the opposite gender to their sex.

I just have absolutely no respect whatsoever for people telling children that they may be the opposite gender if they play with toys currently associated predominantly with that gender.

ARGH.

@BettyDuMonde

*"My friends were goths but it was way too-labour intense a look for me.

One of my friends once ran out of talc so used his mum’s flour to get his rubber trousers on.

3 hours of swaying at the indie disco later, plus a 8-goths-in-my-mum’s-hatchback ride home, and he found the flour had mixed with sweat and turned to glue, which had subsequently hardened in the cold night air.*

He had to soak his trousers off his legs in the bath. True story".

Thanks for this, I needed the belly laugh.

I'm a Goth. Does this make me special or not?

That article ... I have no words. Actually, I do have some:

How utterly self-absorbed do you have to be to write such drivel. Is he a troll? Surely he must be, surely no one clicked publish on that in good faith?! Is he on glue?

Also, as a young goth in the 80s, I had a boyfriend who bought me a v-necked jumper in a hideous pastel yellow and because he thought I might like it.

Dear Reader, I did not sacrifice him to the forces of darkness marry him.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-42499809
Just putting this here. Men in makeup - some rather tasty men, may I say.
They're still men.

I've not come across a non binary person yet who hasn't sounded like a largely straight person looking for a reason to join the alphabet soup brigade and get special snowflake with special pronoun status.

Whatthewaters

Is your friend’s name Ross by any chance?

StaffiesAndPonies

”For those feeling stress from being labelled or invisibled, walk around in a fursuit for a while.”

Indeed, everyone should be entitled to life, liberty and the fursuit of happiness