First there was Jess Bradley, then the Challenors, now Edward Lord...

[PimmsnLemonade]

No direct accusations against Edward Lord (the 'non-binary' freemason who is trying to remove single-sex spaces in London) but here he is describing as a "hero" a man who was a member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) and is a continuing "advocate" for paedophiles:

twitter.com/edwardlord/status/958632082762321922

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html

This twitter thread neatly ties it all together -

twitter.com/scarlettstuff/status/1035704351870857216?s=21

Oh fuck, this tweet made me laugh

twitter.com/dixiechick547/status/1035925586093465600

Errol - it's been publicly tweeted all over Mumsnet's twitter timeline, so I expect so.

In reply to the OP

BraveAndStunning

Oh my God. That's hilarious. If men are afraid women will laugh at them, why are they like that!

Honest to god, pissing myself.

And if it all wasn't bad enough, he's reading the lines like some really, really bad play.

Trying to understand Queer theory via Google - but I'm struggling. Can anyone offer a brief/simple explanation, please?

There is a good explanation of queer theory in this video.

Stopthisnow

That's 51 minutes long. Can you précis, bu any chance? Because I don't get it either.

But Edward Lord is a pillar of the community & specialises in reputational risk !
www.northampton.ac.uk/about-us/governance-and-management/board-of-governors/board-of-governors-membership/edward-lord/

Oh good god - there are some screen shots posted on Sarge's "panties man" twitter thread that need to be seen BY EVERYONE.

They are from some kind of forum where men share stories about rummaging about in sanitary bins to find used tampons. There's one story from a man who puts two used tampons in his Tena pad so he can stand in front of the woman who he thinks used the tampons and look her in the eye while he pees then later marvels at the "pink champagne" created inside the Tena pad and jerk off about it.

But it isn't a fetish, oh no. They are real actual definite women, and always have been.

I cannot think of one woman I know who has ever found menstrual blood a turn on. Truly vile. And again, making women take part in their fetish without consent.

Ooooooh. He's involved in Swim England. Did not know that. Thanks for starting ManFriday Edward

I first read Butler as a postgrad student in the late 90s (Gender Trouble) and remember being outraged at her inability to account for the real, sex-based oppression of women, and at the immorality of the Foucault-inspired idea that power is neutral and merely negotiated in society, rather than being the cause of oppression for certain classes of people, notably women

...to my mind the word "peformance" here is misleading. To the lay mind, at least, 'performance' suggests something artificial, optional, 'put on'. Whereas IMO, most TRAs are behaving in an entitled way because they actually believe they are entitled, and because their culture facilitates this belief. Am I misinterpreting this?

Yes, there are massive issues with Foucault’s ideas of power, but some of the poststructuralist approaches to power have been useful. When we look at how power is negotiated among people and groups, rather than only consider power as something imposed on people from govermentsand military. We are living through an(other) example of how other groups claim power e.g. by shouting ‘terf’ and ‘bigot’ at any critical voices. We have just seen a person, Aimee Challenor, who did not have any power at all, being used to silence other groups, so this is power working in more complex ways than any “simple” top-down oppression. -although I absolute agree that neither Foucault nor Butler were/are likely to see anything wrong with it!

It has always been a problem with Butlers choice of words when she talked about performativity. She did absolutely not mean to allege that this was an artificial “act” being performed, with some kind of true or real actor behind the performance. What she was saying with performativity, was that this is all their is. And when we see people performing these claims to entitlement, that is whatand who they are. There isn’t anything superficial about it, when they claim they are entitled, as you say Kesstrel, they believe it. This obviously is my take on what we can use Butler for, I fully expect she would claim something else! Although sometimes you get the impression even Butler doesn’t know what Butlers position is.

They are from some kind of forum where men share stories about rummaging about in sanitary bins to find used tampons. There's one story from a man who puts two used tampons in his Tena pad so he can stand in front of the woman who he thinks used the tampons and look her in the eye while he pees then later marvels at the "pink champagne" created inside the Tena pad and jerk off about it

Yeah, not seen those but I've had these in my screen shots since May. One reason I came off twitter for a month.

I'm sorry if this is irrelevant/tenuous. I'm not great at unpicking, but....

Floella Benjamin is or was chancellor? at Exeter Uni. She's also vice chair of APPG and regularly tweets NSPCC stuff.

Wonder if there's any merit in contacting her about Exeter Uni?

And yes, am aware that now NSPCC have let children down by cancelling MN chat.

Sheila Jeffreys has a book 'Unpacking Queer Theory' that is very good at deconstructing its arguments and driving home how harmful its agenda is for women and children.

I have to disagree with Fallingirl's defence of queer theory. Advocacy of pedophilia has been there since the start of the discipline (ahem, Foucault), and the direction it's developed in since is IMO merely following that early logic.

It started out as a move away from rigid thinking in terms of binaries. That all social categories were neat and bounded and there were no overlaps between good/bad, gay/straight, black/white etc

Exactly. And this is what makes it so dangerous. The central tenet of queer theory is that transgressing boundaries is good for its own sake. QT abhors binaries, categories, rules, norms and taboos, all of which are deemed to uphold power structures, and argues that breaking them down is by definition liberating.

The broad-based support for pedophilia within queer theory naturally follows from this. (Hey, let's destroy those adult/child, abuser/victim, good/bad binaries! Radical!) I say broad based because there are so many prominent queer theorists who have advocated for pedophilia - it can't be blamed on a few rogue scholars. And some (Foucault, Rubin and Califia, for a start) have campaigned to abolish age of consent laws.

It's not just the older writers either. In her 2012 book 'Gaga Feminism' Judith/Jack Halberstam calls for 'a much-needed public conversation about the folly of imposing sexual regulation on children and the wisdom of making more-neutral assessments about what children want'.

www.aroomofourown.org/gaga-feminism/

Advocacy on behalf of pedophiles really does seem to be a central plank of the discipline. Derek Jensen of Deep Green Resistance has a good video, 'Queer Theory Pedophilia Jeopardy', that makes this point in a few minutes.

He reads out quotes from famous queer theorists endorsing child sexual abuse and has people guess who said it (e.g., 'Who is Judith Butler'). The most sobering bit of the video is the last question: Q: 'Queer theorist who has spoken out strongly against pedophilia.' A: 'Who is no one.'

^ is a great video.

Ooooooh. He's involved in Swim England. Did not know that.

Really?

Edward Lord's involvement with the Football Association inclusion board has been discussed previously.

FA trans-inclusion links with Delia Johnston, Chris Paourus & Claire McCann discussed with regards WEP:

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325882-WEP-conference-questions-for-panel-of-trans-rights-advocating-barristers?pg=2

Sheila Jeffreys has a book 'Unpacking Queer Theory' that is very good at deconstructing its arguments and driving home how harmful its agenda is for women and children.

Available for free from radfem.org/ in multiple formats, along with the complete works of Dworkin. Was posted on Mayday4Women just this morning, handily enough.

Place marking because I have no words at the moment.

Apart from it's a stinking pile that's now been uncovered.

Keep up the great work you fabulous women's rights mumsnetters. xxx

Thanks from me to everyone for all the refs, will look!

Can you believe the people shouting Derek Jenson down like that??

Jeez.

Queer theory seems like a bloody good excuse to do whatever you want.

ToetoToe

One can only guess at the horror and terror a 10 year old would be thinking if presented with such a scenario.