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Children raped and trafficked in plain sight on the streets of Glasgow

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BraveAndStunning · 01/09/2018 08:52

www.heraldscotland.com/news/12766853.The_Child_Sex_Scandal_On_The_Streets_Of_Scotland/

This has been going on for years. Every now and then there is another article written or another news report, like there was on Scottish news last night.

The police know about it
The social workers know about it
The Children's panel know about it
The press know about it
The politicians know about it
The people of Glasgow know about it
The people of Govanhill see it evry day and many continue to report it, but yet nothing happens.
This is Nicola Sturgeon's constituency

It's Rotherham all over again, except here these children are often being sold by their own parents. Parents who do not care if their daughters skip school, because they are girls. Girls are referred to the Children's panel, but the parents don't attend, because they don't care. They see no point in sending girls to school, educating girls. Girls are only good for one thing. And they are sold in the streets of Glasgow.

It's a scandal that this is happening in plain sight.

This is the Government who are proposing NAMED PERSON legislation, where every child in Scotland will have a named person who can intervene and overrule a parent's authority. This authoritarian proposal is being pushed as 'progressive'. Yet the authorities will not take actions against parents who are clearly neglecting, abusing and prostituting their children NOW. The government has that power now and they are choosing not to take action.

The Scottish Government is a disgrace. They come up with all manner of 'progressive' proposals yet they allow the rape of children on the streets of Glasgow.

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/1850898/children-are-being-sold-for-sex-by-their-parents-on-streets-of-glasgow/

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BraveAndStunning · 01/09/2018 13:40

The children will soon be labelled 'sex workers' and the Guardian and Amnesty's work will be done

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2BorNot2Bvocal · 01/09/2018 13:42

Safeguarding must rank first. Above worry of accusations of racism or any other ism/phobia. Organisations should be able to fulfil their primary function and still build community relations at the same time.

terryleather · 01/09/2018 14:00

Previous MN thread about this here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3089249-Child-abuse-prostitution-in-Glasgow-Times-investigation

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/09/2018 14:26

I feel anger coupled with a sense of hopelessness. Do people or organisations never learn when it comes to the exploitation of children?

PenelopeFlintstone · 01/09/2018 14:31

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/10/roma-again-scapegoats-for-ills-of-society

Here's The Guardian from December last year basically saying it's false rumours based in racism.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 14:41

Ah ok so timelines

the newspaper reports - original, guardian, and another are from oct/noc last year

the arrests that have been made are more recent

keen to know whetehr the guardian commentator is lobbying to get the arrested people released on the grounds that they can't have done anything wrong and it's just racism

WaddIelikeapenguin · 01/09/2018 14:42

FFS i used to live in Govanhill ~20 yrs ago it was an amazing community, we fought to stop them closing the baths (& failed)
Barring the marches & the old firm games it was a good place.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 14:45

And once again
Racism claim is a shit excuse

White men buy children to sexually abuse all the time - this is a man problem, not a "speciifc type of man" problem

The ones with a racist agenda only care about csa when groups they want to do down are involved
The lefty bros don't care about csa when groups the racists want to do down are involved (more important to protect against racism than to uncover csa:- this is the "more sinister" thing than child sexual exploitation that the commentator was referring to).

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 14:46

The punters always fly under the radar in these stories.

they all want nicking and locking up.

AnotherLurker02 · 01/09/2018 14:48

Name change test.

arranfan · 01/09/2018 14:49

NothingOnTellyAgain wrote: the men buying these children are / include numbers of ordinary white scotsmen
and
The punters always fly under the radar in these stories

Strongly agree with both of these. The people purchasing and despoiling the children seem to be invisible in some narratives.

Hyppolyta · 01/09/2018 14:50

That story is utterly utterly heartbreaking.

How on earth can this be happeninh to children in the UK? But it is. Amd no ones fucking doing anything

Id rather far worse happen to the vile paedophiles that are raping these girls, but locking them up will do.

No man can buy sex off a child, its rape.
Every fucking time.

AnotherLurker02 · 01/09/2018 14:53

Name changed.
Currently dealing with this in Wales too.
Trafficked girls and women, we aren't clear of the ages. Men running it are of a different country/culture. Police are called time after time, not interested.
Personally, I've been accused of being a racist and a bigot after raising concerns by both a social worker and police implied it.
Safeguarding has to be Universal, once exemptions/excuses are made for certain groups, oppressed or otherwise, that's when you start seeing perps and predators come through.

VeryBerryAugust · 01/09/2018 14:53

We need a Victorian moral panic imho.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 14:58

VeryBerry yes quite

I feel like mary whitehouse

the "liberals " (who only seem interested in being more liberal with where men can stick their cocks) and the leftybros (who bang on about awful capitalism, all work is coerced etc etc but for ONE "job" >> prostitution where it's totes empowering and great and not a single one of them is capable of applying the analysis they apply to everything else to it)
are pushing hard to remove boundaries and increase male sexual access to all sorts of people

the issue is that everything is run by men and men like to have "freedom" to fuck whoever

women are the constant pushback around all this expecially when it comes to younger people/children

AnotherLurker02 · 01/09/2018 15:01

I've worked in this sort of area for coming on to a couple of decades. Even if stuff gets to Court and its laughably small, the conviction rate takes the piss.
The only thing the Justice system seems to give a monkeys fuck about is crimes involving money.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 15:06

Well it was all set up from male establishment POV around crime against property.

Is hopeless, literally hopeless, when it comes to crime that is not related to property (money) and especially where the victims are women / children.

NewUserNameTime · 01/09/2018 15:23

Just awful

Amortentia · 01/09/2018 15:29

This is not a recent thing. All those who say it was a great community in the 80s and 90s are deluded, I lived and went to school there and left because I was sick of being harassed by Asian men (I lived on Allison st).
I also had many family members who worked in the social work department who were overwhelmed by the sexual exploitation of children, especially those already in care in the many children’s homes in polloksheilds.
I now work with academics who are doing a lot of research on the Roma community and trying to tackle myths about them and how integration can be improved. But, there is also an unspoken rule that questions over child sex abuse is not to be touched very much like the situation in Rochdale, it’s very frustrating.

The thing is, no matter who the community are and where you’re talking about this is going on. Not one politician or police force can change this. This can only stop when OUR culture changes and let’s men know that no matter your ethnicity, wealth, social status you will be held accountable for sexual exploitation, abuse and violence against women and children.

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/09/2018 15:34

Local resident Jim Miller said:-

"I was almost hysterical by this point," said Miller. "I'd just seen a child being raped in broad daylight."

Superintendent Dean :-

"If anyone is offered a child for the purposes of child prostitution I want to hear from them immediately".

Superintendent Dean could do with some lessons from Mr Miller.

On the off- chance there is a Miss, Ms or Mrs Miller on here your man's a good 'un.

arranfan · 01/09/2018 15:36

Adults have always sold and purchased children for exploitation. This sense of entitlement and abuse of power transcends social structures, ethnicity, faith, and most other ways of assigning us to categories.

I don't believe there has ever been a time/segment of society in Britain when this hasn't happened.

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/09/2018 15:39

Here's The Guardian from December last year basically saying it's false rumours based in racism

Well it must be true. The writer Kevin McKenna is a brainwashed leftie, indie, class warrior who generally writes utter codswallop.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 01/09/2018 15:39

But now we are starting to hear about it,

So it's time for something to be done.

LassWiADelicateAir · 01/09/2018 15:58

We have been hearing about it for some time and little seems to have been done.

I'm gobsmacked by that Kevin McKenna article. I've read plenty of self-righteous drivel from him but that one takes the prize.

PenelopeFlintstone · 01/09/2018 16:03

Well it must be true. The writer Kevin McKenna is a brainwashed leftie, indie, class warrior who generally writes utter codswallop.

That's what I meant. They always just say it's spread by racists or don't report it to not look racist, even when it's common knowledge with multiple witnesses as in the other articles. Here was an example of that.

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