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Child abuse / prostitution in Glasgow - Times investigation

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norahnamechange Fri 17-Nov-17 07:38:44

The Times has published a shocking investigation into systematic abuse / prostitution of children in the Govan area of Glasgow.
Children, some as young as 5 / 6 , are being openly sold on the streets. They come from one particular group (the Roma community) and just as with Rotherham and other towns where we had systematic organised abuse, there appears to be the same lack of effective response from the Police / social services for fear of appearing racist / targeting a particular community?
I can't cut and paste but here's a link to one of their articles (behind a paywall):

Utterly appalling

MrsOverTheRoad Fri 17-Nov-17 08:05:59

Annoyingly the article is behind a paywall.

Terrylene Fri 17-Nov-17 09:15:44

This is beyond awful.

Sarahjconnor Fri 17-Nov-17 09:23:45

I cannot read the article - can anyone share?

This is happening in every U.K. town and city. It hasn't stopped in Rochdale or Rotherham. It happens in the town I work in and if I make reports the police accuse me of spying on teenagers etc. I have been accused of a 'hate crime' for reporting a child getting into a mans car after being plied with alcohol, I did not know the man was registered as disabled. I have been accused of 'hate crime' for challenging 2 men from an ethnic minority for trying to persuade 3 girls to go with them to their homes. I have been stalked, harassed and verbally abused. The police do not want to tackle this. It's a disgrace, an utter disgrace.

norahnamechange Fri 17-Nov-17 09:49:17

Hopefully someone will be along with a share token to share the details. And it's so awful that it will be picked up soon by the BBC etc.

And this may be of interest to you - posted it on another thread but it's relevant to what you say about your treatment as a woman 'whistleblowing' abuse:

TaylorTinker Fri 17-Nov-17 09:55:09

A quick Google reveals story in The Herald in 2007!

Sarahjconnor Fri 17-Nov-17 09:55:13

That woman is a hero. She's not the only one but she never backed down, She's fantastic. Many many woman and men have been sacked for reporting these crimes. A teacher at my local secondary school was forced to resign for 'harassing a pupil' when she was in fact banging on the side of a white van parked outside the school ready to pick up 4 vulnerable girls immediately after school. And there are still many people who believe these girls are 'asking for it'. sad

lessworriedaboutthecat Fri 17-Nov-17 10:01:45

@nonamechange I doubt the BBC will be picking it up any time soon. It doesn't fit their narrative.

Xennialish Fri 17-Nov-17 10:01:51

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AgentProvocateur Fri 17-Nov-17 10:03:34

Sorry to be a pedant, but it’s Govanhill (totally different area from Govan). If you google, this area has a lot of social problems.

PoppyPopcorn Fri 17-Nov-17 10:03:51

Govanhill is the part of Glasgow represented by Nicola Sturgeon. It's not the same as Govan. (although close by).

There have been stories surfacing regularly about modern day slavery, trafficking and enforced prostitution for years. Nothing visible happening about it.

Igneococcus Fri 17-Nov-17 10:05:32

With share token:

terryleather Fri 17-Nov-17 10:10:12

This does not surprise me.

I’m in Victoria Rd in the heart of Govanhill quite regularly and I’d remarked to a friend about how many very young Roma girls I saw that were caked in make up, I’m talking maybe 7/8 years old.

My friend raised her eyebrows and told me that it was well known that many very young Roma girls were pimped out to punters.

I was totally shocked but wasn’t sure if it was just a nasty rumour...seems it might not be.

Just appalling.

Backingvocals Fri 17-Nov-17 10:17:20

We struggled to get Roma issues dealt with here too - central London. Here it’s an issue of aggressive begging with young children. Groups of women begging under the control of a gang master. They sleep rough on the steps of our school with one male minder. There may we’ll be forced prostitution (brothels are an issue round here) but I’ve not seen it.

We also found no one wanted to deal with it. Until they built a shanty town on Park Lane and then action was taken hmm

We did start putting it to the police as an issue of people trafficking and child exploitation but without much success.

TaylorTinker Fri 17-Nov-17 10:17:49

I'll be looking out for the story on the BBC.

TheJunctionBaby Fri 17-Nov-17 10:18:48

I feel sick. How is such open abuse not being acted upon by the authorities? And I just can't fathom a parent offering their own child to be abused in return for money - I'd prostitute myself (as sick as the thought makes me feel) any day over that. No matter how destitute, I just can't understand or forgive that kind of vile betrayal.

Terrylene Fri 17-Nov-17 11:13:15

I'll be looking out for the story on the BBC

It may take a while ..... keep breathing!

GuardianLions Fri 17-Nov-17 11:32:11

This is disgraceful. Why aren't social services stepping in and removing the kids?

SealSong Fri 17-Nov-17 11:49:08

This is the Herald article from 2007 - here.
Seems nothing has changed in ten years angry

Sarahjconnor Fri 17-Nov-17 12:03:55

Thanks for sharing the article.

ASAS Fri 17-Nov-17 12:19:47

Can barely write this. Govanhill leading to Govan on matchdays is notorious for this. So little happens at a macro level that Glaswegian men now just fight the pimps as there's deemed to be no point in telling the police.

There used to be a big council/Salvation Army strategy to tackle this. It's totally incideous though, the parents refuse any help offered to their children.

AgentProvocateur Fri 17-Nov-17 12:45:43

My friend worked in govanhill on a voluntary project, and one of the issues seems to be that it’s a closed community, run by a group of males. The could not engage with the women as they wanted to because they didn’t speak any English and they would always have a man in the room. The overcrowding is dreadful and the properties are generally in a very poor state of repair. There was a drone film from a few years back where you could see rubbish piled up to the window in the back courts. And with these unsanitary conditions come rats, disease and other problems. The Romanians have no recourse to public funds - they have to be “employed”, so lots of them sell the big issue and get money by other means. I don’t know how you solve it, but it’s dreadfully sad that living like this, and prostituting your children, is STILL a better option than going back to their home country.

diddlemethis Fri 17-Nov-17 14:42:16

What exactly is happening in their home country, which is worse than prostituting your very young children to pedophiles? I am having trouble thinking of anything.

Backingvocals Fri 17-Nov-17 14:45:13

I don’t think this is the right framework to understand the problem. Many Romanians will tell you this is not an economic refugee situation.

diddlemethis Fri 17-Nov-17 14:51:15

Isn’t this people from Slovakia and Romania?

If there are people living there, who are in such a bad way that escape to here and prostituting your kids is seen as understandable, then surely we should be even more horrified, and we should be talking about it. And doing something.

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