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Reading Pride

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 12:18

Looks like I'm going with my 15yo and her friends to Pride tomorrow. They are naive rainbow-swallowing trans-allies, and I am a gender-critical liberal (small-L). I am not going to spoil their fun or embarrass dd, I am simply there as their discreet chaperone.

But...

Should I, still discreet, do something...more?

Suggestions...?

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:41

I stand with my lesbian sisters because of their biology.

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noeffingidea · 31/08/2018 14:41

Take one of these banners or stay away OP
Who are you to be telling people what banners they should take to pride?

oatmealrats · 31/08/2018 14:43

Given that transactivism is drenched in homophobia and actively argues that lesbians are immoral for wanting nothing to do with males, I'd say they should be the ones staying home. Instead they continue to colonize an event meant to celebrate same sex attraction, because they care far more about validation than whether or not they support gay conversion rhetoric. I certainly no longer feel comfortable at any pride when I know the organizers would call me a terf for saying my sexual orientation is only inclusive of other females. I couldn't care less if they feel they are facing hostility.

OP you really don't have to do anything at all. Maybe it might be interested to open up a discussion with your daughter and her friends. I was the same way a few years ago and it took me a while but I finally got out of rainbow politics.

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 31/08/2018 14:44

OP I’m not sure this is a good look, I also think there will be eyes on you because FWR gets a lot of attention.

Jasmine why do you think lesbians or feminism should centre male bodies?

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 31/08/2018 14:44

Oh I get it, Jasmine are you a retailer of these banners?

noeffingidea · 31/08/2018 14:45

I stand with my lesbian sisters because of their biology
Well said. And lets not forget, homosexuality ie same sex attraction is a protected status under the equality act.

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:46

Havingalittle I don't understand.

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jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:49

HavingALittleBabyToolshed I don't. And neither does any lesbian I know. And neither do trans activists. The big obsession with penises is here on FWR.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:50

OP you're supposed to be a bit more subtle about the transphobia, your OP is very blatant.

thatdamnwoman · 31/08/2018 14:52

It's not transphobic to state the biological truth — that women don't have penises.

Why are you so terrified by basic biological facts?

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:53

It's all about context thatdamnwoman and Pride isn't the place.

As another poster pointed out it's not a good look.

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JellySlice · 31/08/2018 14:54

No, clearly Pride is not the place for lesbians Sad

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littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 14:55

I like penises of an evening

But not in unexpected places

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 14:56

Lesbians don’t like them either in unexpected areas

ColePorter · 31/08/2018 14:57

As mum of a lesbian teen, I would go along to support my DD.

But she won't have me go with her because a) I'm Mum so by definition I am embarrassing and b) she thinks I'm a TERF because I agree with scientific fact.

We're at an impasse in this household Hmm

DD had planned to go to Reading Pride, but her friends are busy and thankfully it's likely that she won't be going any more.

Go along to support your DD, but if it were me, I would keep quiet to preserve my relationship with DD. Sad but true.

AbsintheFriends · 31/08/2018 14:58

I'd be tempted to take some small stickers (freezer labels would do) stating solidarity with lesbians to put discreetly in the women's loos. I imagine there will be a few lesbians there who'll feel sidelined and vulnerable.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 14:58

Pride isn't the place for transphobia.

Lesbians are always welcome.

AbsintheFriends · 31/08/2018 15:01

Lesbians are always welcome

As long as they have pert silicone boobs and stay quiet?

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 15:02

Blah blah blah transphobic

We hear it so many times here. It’s kinda lost it’s insult cos I never seen a transphobic thing here

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 15:03

Lol it's not up to transphobes to define transphobia!

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 15:03

Same out insult trotted out again and again

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 15:04

Who is the transphobe then ?

ColePorter · 31/08/2018 15:05

jasmine I doubt you'll change any minds on this thread, especially if you're addressing mothers of lesbian teens - young adults who have been brave enough to come out to their families, expressing a same sex preference. Mothers, such as myself, will want to defend my child's burgeoning sexuality and maturity from potential harm.

If she says she likes girls, then my 15 year old does not mean ladydicks.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 31/08/2018 15:07

Its doesn't seem to be up to intelligent women (or the Oxford English Dictionary for that matter) to define what a women is either.

jasminemaya · 31/08/2018 15:08

ColePorter teenage lesbians in the real world know the only people obsessed with ladydicks are here on FWR.

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