Green Party thread 3

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Previous thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3347925-Green-Party-statement-continuation-thread?pg=40

Will post links to AC's public statement and Caroline Lucas's appalling white wash job in a moment, but for me, Andrew Gilligan nails it yet again:
twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1034776005326581767

Can’t remember the exact wording (I was struck down by incredulity). It did AC really just describe themselves as a ‘Transwoman of note with a public profile that will not wash away’?

Betty

Yes. Aimee talks like someone so pompous they refer to themselves in the third person

Aimee's just demonstrated a willingness to trash her former Party (they were informed; they have been transphobic for 4 years) in order to cling on to a diminishing-by-the-second 'public role' (her position in the GP gave her traction).

That's not great. That screams l.i.a.b.i.l.i.t.y.

I'm thinking about Stonewall now.

Well that's true enough...

AC IS a trans person of note with a profile that even domestos couldn't bleach clean wash away...

Mother's FB rants - if Aimee was a FB friend (highly likely) + fact she's Aimee's mother - strongly point to Aimee knowing. But not provesble.

Indeed. But also - your dad is up in court and you're close enough to him to have him as your agent, etc - but you don't ask him or your mum WHY he's up in court?

And the police didn't interview you about it?

Anyone else feel like they are witnessing a car crashing in slow motion, but are powerless to stop it?

< raises hand >

Transwoman of note with a public profile that will not wash away

Oh dear.

The LP should be watching this very closely.

You can't give/affirm enough...ever.

Then when you do reach a line you can't cross, you'll get no thanks for the support/home/platform you provided....it's just slash and burn...

I don't understand. Does Aimee not realise what Twitter is awash with, at the moment, in terms of sites Aimee belongs to?

Transwoman of note with a public profile that will not wash away

Aren't we up ourselves, then?

Aimee was ... economical with the truth there.

We know Aimee knew who the victim was way back - there were screenshots of text conversations between them. There were also reports of facebook posts by Tina Challenor (and I'm sure someone has screenshots) saying that Aimee was having to essential deny all knowledge to save her career.

Then there is the interesting company Aimee has been keeping. With pictures that have been widely shared.

One thing's for sure - Aimee has got a taste for public life and isn't going away if she can help it.

I've got the whole thing recorded. I will try and transcribe a bit of it, but I've got to go out this evening, so possibly won't get to do it tonight.

The Intro meantions in no uncertain terms the rape and torture of a 10 year old girl.

BBC: I asked her why she felt the Green Party had become transphobic

AC: "In recent months trans people with the party have faced a continuous stream of assault on our basic rights and dignity from senior green party figures including some of our public representatives."

"I've now seen that following my temporary no fault suspension from the party senior party members including one one of the leadership candidates in the election that ended today, tried to use that to suggest that any party member who had been suspended for transphobia should be allowed back in. Their suspension should be immediately reviewed, which is deeply inappropriate and unjust because they, in both cases, followed a dispclinary process that every complaints process follows, that myself and no member of my family have been directly involved in."

One thing's for sure - Aimee has got a taste for public life and isn't going away if she can help it.

I'm not sure notoriety is what she is anticipating, though.

Co-Chair of the Greens LBGTQalphabetsoup, Lucas North (non binary)
writes for Pink News about Caroline Lucas' silliness over WPUK.

He's heard that WPUK's discussions are one sided and they don't even discuss mens' trans rights at all.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/09/04/caroline-lucas-green-party-legitimise-hate-groups/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Buffer&utm_campaign=PN

Strangely, Lucas is getting his arse kicked on Twitter

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1036982224623677440

Lucas describes himself as the elected Constitution Nerd for the NUS, activist and public speaker. Takes lots of pouting selfies in make-up, but resumes a make-up free male persona when it suits.

Who was suspended apart from Olivia?

Btw, please bear with me on this, if I'm going to do it, I want to be as accurate as possible, but my recording has a toddler talking in the background so its not easy!

Seems as though the Greens have been a target for men with an agenda, and that agenda has nothing to do with the environment . The GP , like Labour, is just the means.

I'll bet AC is feeling humiliated that AC only merits a spot on BBC Coventry and Warwickshire.

Which is perhaps not the heady glitz and glamour of national media attention that AC anticipated with the resignation flounce.

And the likes of Owen Jones and other cheerleaders have suddenly got nowt to say on transgender issues.

What are these sites she's on?
Company and pictures I must have missed it if anyone would mind linking for me please?
Seems like aimee is a bear faced liar and a liability.
I'm looking forward to what stonewall have to say about this.
Or are they waiting for us all to forget.

Should we invite Aimee on Mumsnet for a webchat?

Red they usually do a catch up service online that would be toddler free. Not suggesting you should do it quicker btw - just might be easier!

Go have toddler fun.

I'm thinking about Stonewall now.

Also me.

Oh - this tweet from Green LBGTQalphabetsoup Lucas North today (4th). I've only just seen it after posting about his article in Pink News

I hate searching my name on here/google because I don't see things about me, I see things about spooks. And I wanna see things about me, while I dont care about spooks. It's very sad.

Hi Young Green Lucas North NUS, (not the Spooks guy) welcome to Mumsnet.

For an aspiring politician who also polices procedural niceties and accuracies for NUS and the Young Greens, (a law graduate to boot) - take a look at the youtube videos of WPUK.

TIP: only write articles on what you've seen and researched rather than relying on third hand unreliable sources.

You're welcome Green Party Lucas North NUS

BBC: These are allegations that you feel have affected you directly and very personally, do you know of any people in the party who have faced the transphobia you claim.

AC: A number of people have faced it. One of my friends just the other day, sent an email into the party and they got a response deadnaming them, which was deeply against everything we stand for as the green party. Its possibly a mistake, but then the party then didn't do anything to make up for this mistake.

BBC: You see a lot of people listening to this and thinking of all the political parties it is the green party which is the most inclusive, it is the green party that is the most tolerant, it is the green party that is the most open and transparent when it comes to these issues, so to a lot of people hearing this today will be quite surprised.

AC: I joined the Green Party in 2014 because I shared their vision for a planet and people future where we campaign for environmental and social justice. I have championed equally matters up and down the country. I've been fortune enough to lead at local, national and international political level and it really quite sadening and disappointing that the Green Party today is not the Green Party I joined in 2014.

BBC: How long have you felt like this?

AC: Its...been...

BBC: This seems like a quite big change of heart for you. You were only a candidate last year. [interruption difficult to get]

AC: Its feels like its been quite quick, but its been a few weeks in the making. And I was

BBC: So its not something you've held for a few months, or even years, its just something you've felt in the last couple of weeks.

AC: Its a couple of weeks but equally, I beleive that principles matter and if join a group whether its a political party or not, because you agree with those principle and then you find the group no longer agree with those principles, then you should feel like you are able to leave.

“Bear faced liar” has to be the best typo ever, given the furry stuff....