Green Party statement continuation thread

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www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3346448-Green-Party-statement

Odds on either of the above happening or the affected committees/organisations announcing such steps after a 'conversation'?

I think there's a bigger chance of Jared wotshisface from Sheffield becoming the next prime minister.

'As I slowly return to twitter'- 2 whole days later and were on there blocking people yesterday.

I thought that. Someone is very blunted. Imagine the devastation of this in any family. And back on social media? It's bizarre and sad.

She's still using the LGBT+ account?

Fucking hell, that's inept of the GP.

I'm sure PP is right and it'll be because she set up the account/no-one else has the password/etc.

But none of this is making the Green Party look like anything but incompetent.

Green Party - Aimee employed a man facing charges of child rape and torture as her Agent! Do YOU think that shows judgment? Is that the sort of judgment you want in your LGBT+ representative?

It's a bit ... libertarian, surely?

I, personally, would think twice about employing someone in a serious, public-facing role - one which implicitly carries the stamp of the Party's public presence - facing such charges. But, hey, maybe I'm just too authoritarian for such a radical, cool Party such as the Greens.

The BBC report is incredibly banal:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-45328860

her father was jailed for sexually abusing a 10-year-old girl.

It's no more than minimising bullcrap. They were forced into reporting so they do the least they can.

Fucking hell, that's inept of the GP.

Inept or completely incompetent?

Had nobody actually spoken to AC and told them to stand the fuck down until an internal investigation has been completed and this includes all communications on behalf of or representing the Green Party.

Even a tiny two person company knows about the concept of 'damage limitation'. This just shows that the Greens have zero handle on this in any way.

thought that. Someone is very blunted. Imagine the devastation of this in any family. And back on social media? It's bizarre and sad.

On SM Aimee is somebody. Off line, based on what people have posted about the reality behind " the rising star" description, perhaps not so much.

When everything you thought you were going to be, going achieve, going to have is looking like it's foundations are made of the softest sand. And there's a tornado coming.

Maybe facing that in a place where you are still somebody and you get affirmation that your anticipated future will still be yours, feels better than the alternative.

To be absolutely plain: The Green Party can't issue any statement suggesting Aimee's lack of judgement was the result of trauma that impaired her ability to recognise safeguarding issues and proper boundaries because

... during that time, the Party had her working on their Safeguarding policy.

She's either competent to negotiate Safeguarding issues, or she isn't.

And if not then all those policies are up for scrutiny.

Just like the case-load of a police-officer or a lawyer.

So, just as long as Aimee keeps on being vocal and (unbelievable!) keeps tweeting from s Green Party-associated twitter account, those questions remain live.

It's a continuing car-crash.

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2018/08/26/green-party-statement-aimee-challenor-stands-down-in-green-party-deputy-leadership-race/

The GP had said that AC wouldn’t be undertaking any official role for them while their internal investigation was ongoing.

OK having read todays statement it is obvious that someone with a brain and a moral compass is back in the Green Party HQ after the bank holiday and has been on the phone to a lawyer.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas

Yes, inept, incompetent and, I would say, cynical.

Because the fact is, this is a serious political issue about a Party with Parliamentary ambitions.

It is STILL not receiving the coverage it merits.

It is ongoing.

BUT there is still no serious media coverage. The Guardian SHOULD be covering this - they're not.

People are hoping it will all go away if they hold out long enough.

The Green Party are - quite cynically - hoping it will all go away if they hold out long enough.

I would have thought that now was a good time to be a bit quiet and step back,

Out of respect for the victim
And also in the hope it might all "blow over" in the news

BBC report useless.
The story Aimee is giving keeps changing. About when they knew and what they knew.
Also agree it minimises the horror of what DC did to his victim.

i also wonder why the press / police / anyone don't seem to have picked up on the fact Aimee keeps referring to "victims" and "survivors" rather than singluar.

Green Party statement on August 26th:

"The party is urgently reviewing its disclosure and safeguarding policies and procedures and will learn from any lessons that process reveals...

Aimee will not be undertaking any official Green Party roles while the party urgently looks into the circumstances which allowed this situation to arise".

AC statement on August 28th from AC's Twitter Account (Equalities LGBTIQA+ Spokesperson for The Green Party. Co-convener of Global Greens LGBT+ Network):

"The party have been clear of their support".

What is the word for when something is beyond an omnishambles?

Aimeeshambles?

CesiraAndEnrico wrote: Just a hunch, based on stuff I have read on here about things are organised. But maybe it was up to AC to create that twitter account independently , rather than have one made, managed and controlled by the party.

Your hunch seems sound. However, if the GP has had enough conversations to express their continuing support, then they needed to state firmly that AC ceases to act for them in any public capacity for the time being, until the GP's investigations are complete.

It might be helpful to know if any senior members of the GP have expressed contemporaneous support for AC.

... and yet she's tweeting from the LGBT+ account ...

Car crash.

A situation where a man who is a "pillar of the community" with activities in scouts, gymnastics club, charity activities, wheelchair basketball, living at GP registered HQ for the area, being sent down for 22 years (a massively long time) for such extreme crimes is definitely something that would normally be a big news story on all outlets.

Even without their child running for deputy leader of major political party who had been living at address etc.

BBC and Guardian have their own reasons for their actions.

Her lack of judgement may simply be due to youth and inexperience. This would be so for many 20 year olds facing a media storm. Which brings about an obligation from the GP to advise and protect her.

Any good employer of someone her age would do the same.

And while she tweets merrily on, despite that statement, the BIGGER question lurks: what are Parties prepared to overlook in order to get someone with 'star appeal' for the 'woke' demographic on board?

#carcrash

#Aimeeshambles

(Sorry, I'm such a goldfish, I've forgotten the name of the PP who thought that up.)

Ah Ffs

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor?wprov=sfla1

Great posts Barracker now that I've got to read them - well said!!

The BBC may have a policy of not reporting salacious details in case it upsets weak minded readers who need their safe spaces these days I suspect rather than any pro trans agenda. However this is one reason I do not like the way we have diluted the word "abuse". It used to mean really terrible things like child rape. Now we use it for a wide range of things which is a worse use of English in my view and means we have less precision in articles. The details are relevant as the offences were particularly heinous.

For me the bigger issue is letting teenagers stand for office (in my view they are too young for anything other than student posts) and also the not surprising issue that minor political parties tend not to have such good governance nor checks on candidates as bigger organisations might have.

Youth...20...? Bull!

Aimee is also advising the green party on the investigation into Aimee.

What a fucking balls up

That Wikipedia entry needs amending. She stepped down from the Deputy Leadership contest several days after her father’s sentencing, not after his arrest.