Antifeminist movement...

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Seems to be gathering pace, faster than any other movement that I can recall..

Red Pill, MRAs, blogs and youtube channels seem to be springing up aplenty.

Can we put all of this down to misogyny or admit some failings of feminist thought?

OP, I have listened to some of the stuff you mention. To be honest, I find it fascinating to hear things from a complety different point of view. I think the way it's put across is sometimes offensive, but I think it's useful to know how things look from another perspective.

Was the OP a seagull poster?

Flies in sh1ts and flies off.

but....but.....

I wike weetabix when it's all mushy and soft....

some of us sniff like our weetabix "disgustingly soggy" you know. You lot are weetphobic!!!

You...you........you HORRORS

Mmm, Vicky, berries and yogurt is great. I sometimes add granola - is that wrong?

Well. Typical that a coven of witches women would be WERFs.

Weetabix roolz ok.

Alice

Nothing is wrong. It's just widening the bandwidth of women who like yoghurt.

Why is everyone talking about weetabix? Is it because you just don't want to go into this topic?

I myself do not like yoghurt, although I do like Skyr. But I think that might just be situational - in Iceland it was lovely

Dh and I stayed at the Loch Fyne Hotel, in Inveraray, and alongside all the usual breakfast buffet options (including weetabix of course) they had a vat of porridge. Not unusual, as we were in Scotland - hat made it stand out in the memory was one of the accompaniments - not the golden syrup or the cream (porridge with cream and go,den syrup is lovely), but the bottle of Bell’s whisky, so you could have a dram in your porridge!

I felt it was a bit early for whisky...

Sorry for the typos.

And for not feministing right, obviously.

SDTG

That sounds amazing. A bit of Baileys in porridge would be nice. But probably heretical in the Loch Fyne Hotel, I imagine

Lovetocycle, it's probably because this kind of set up is a reasonably regular load of old crap done for the purpose of going into all the things feminists are doing wrong or why feminism isn't necessary etc. It's not usually done in good faith, and the women here are much keener on breakfast cereal than on humouring someone who wants to have a pop at them.

Also, speaking as someone who was brought up with manners, when you want to start a conversation you say what you think and then come back to listen to others. Call me old-fashioned.

Anyway. DS2 eats 12 weetabix a day. He's definitely on the grow

There's a huge difference between what feminism fights for and how feminists behave.

I think the term antifeminist rather than antifeminism is telling. It's aimed at feminists themselves not the ideology.

Feminists are human. We are going find other humans we don't get along with. There are extremists in all walks of life and feminism is not immune, but feminism itself is logical and not just a 'cause'... It's fighting for a basic human right.

I don't believe any antifeminist movement is gathering pace with any significance. I think there are waves of political correctness and sexual inclusion concerns that have masses of the general public believing they are progressive and inclusive without fully considering that the cost of inclusion for some groups may be the safety and privacy of others.

It is probably true that the public perception of feminists varies a great deal. However, disagreement with a feminist does not equate to opposition to feminism. I think there are those in society who, to suit their own ends, would have us believe that it does.

Feminism has image problems. It has no image, that is why. It is not a brand, it is not a marketing campaign, it is not a sales pitch.
The image 'problem' doesn't belong to feminists though. It belongs to those who actually do oppose feminism. They have nothing to point at and denounce. That is why they prefer to point at women themselves and denounce them. And the people doing this are not even fit to be called antifeminist. They are men who cannot make peace with their actual masculinity so seek to steal feminity from real women and re-brand it in their own image.

Yes, quite. Terminology is usually the give away. 'is it just misogyny or can we admit some failings of feminist thought' just reads as a nonsense tbh. The minimising of misogyny's pernicious reach, and the framing of the second part as an attempt to get an 'admission' of failings is just the red flag of Weetabix all over the place.

Actually, I thought "antifeminist movement" was good turn of phrase for the onslaught against women from the TRA movement.

I might use it in future.

Floral bunting
OK, thanks

Maybe if the OP bothered to show their face again and actually answer some of the questions they were asked, you know....engage in the dialogue they seemed to WANT, then perhaps people would take their post seriously.

As the status quo stands, I'm afraid that weetabix, in all its glorious sogginess, is way more interesting. Although now that someone's mentioned granola...

I saw chocolate covered frosties in holiday recently. And OREO cereal. And some that looked like mini Maryland cookies among other sugary horrors. No wonder diabetes levels are so high.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror

I'd like to think we're a broad church wrt yoghurt-centred dishes on FWR and encourage you to include any and all items that give you pleasure.

I can't be doing with granola personally, but am not a gerf.

Transplants

Although I do feel that if I widened the berry bandwidth to include meatballs and yogurt that would wrong in many ways. It's a minefield...

Porridge and whisky though... Mmm....

Thank you Vicky. I now also see that my spell check is taking the 'h' out of yoghurt. I'd suspect TRAs but I know they are more focused of removing a different letter.

This is sinister...

Gordon Bennet, I've been working too hard, I saw the word gerf and realized how much the 'erf' ending is onomatopoeic to me. It's a sort of soft collision in my head. And the addition of the g just makes me thinking of gerbils. So now I have cartoon gerbils in my head who keep smacking softly into one another.

This has been another edition of the tired thought-processes of FloralBunting...

In the vague direction of the spirit of the OP - does anyone else find it difficult to differentiate between TRA and MRA rhetoric?

Is living as NB, GF, TRA etc. so very different from the usual socialisation and experience of women that there is nothing to drive an understanding of GC feminism that would give them pause?

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Cereal preferences

I admit, to my shame, that if I could afford the calories, and my ludicrously fragile teeth could take it, I would happily eat 500g of granola a day. Also a kilo of Skyr or Greek Yoghurt.

I doubt I'm about to become a cereal splitter because I shouldn't think many other people do this but - I can only eat Weetabix if they're firm. A splash of hot water per Weetabix biscuit - a few seconds to stand, and then consume.

My DH allows granola/muesli and various cereals to become soggy. I can't bear to watch the gradual sludging in the bowl.