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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MN is a 'Hate group' apparently.

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KlutzyDraconequus · 19/08/2018 10:25

Apologies for spoiling your Sunday, but i thought I'd best let you all know, according to some on an external site... Everyone here is part of a hate group..
I had no idea tbh.

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arranfan · 01/09/2018 15:19

Radicalisation Portal (ver Stargate)

Not a portal to a hate dimension or group? If not, grief, I've been wasting my time thinking about trivia like 2 minute hates, hate mornings (how to fit that in as it doesn't seem right to multi-task it with yoga) etc.

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2018 15:19

Flaw in that plan for them; they have to talk to the evil terfs to 'deradicalise' them.

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:19

MN Hate Groups are so rubbish that there's no agreed uniform, period or topic of hate, or even rituals. iirc, no agreement on what would constitute "hate" tho', for some, it seems intellectual enquiry that opens up the possibility there is a different point of view is sufficient.
Arran you are ruining everything Grin

A radicalisation portal sounds amazing. ISIS have their natty beheading videos, MRAs have Return of Kings, and the TERF Brigade have Mumsnet... honestly the hyperbole from TRAs will be their undoing

BettyDuMonde · 01/09/2018 15:20

We could always go for a large matching tote bag, something like Shon Faye’s self-titled ‘Mumsnet’ handbag?

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:20

They do talk shite, don't they? Poker-up-the-arse Americanisms and the excessive use of adjectives.

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 15:21

Flaw in that plan for them; they have to talk to the evil terfs to 'deradicalise' them.

Yep. And as the reaction of all TRAs and their Libfem handmaidens supporters to any kind of challenge to their mantras is to scream, stick their fingers in their ears and then block, that's unlikely to happen.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:21

We cOuld also sport the Mumsnet Haircut

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:22

Isn't our uniform incredibly sturdy pyjamas, though?
I feel a match in sturdy pyjamas coming on. Mine would be thick brushed cotton with buttons up the front

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:22

March not match!

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:23

Winceyette PJs. With a ditsy print of lady penises

arranfan · 01/09/2018 15:25

Flaw in that plan for them; they have to talk to the evil terfs to 'deradicalise' them.

You make a fine point. It wouldn't matter how Cath Kidston the invitation to tea and chat, there'd need to be 24 lever-arches of undertaking that no matter how vicious the disagreement about milk first or second, there would be no kerb-stomping of MNetters. (As far as I know, there have been no offers of violence the other way round so we're pretty much in need of one-way assurances here.)

And yes - I am abashed at being such a fun-spoiler. :)

R0wantrees · 01/09/2018 15:29

especially when it's already happened in a Canadian women's refuge.

There are current legal actions about both the Californian homeless project for women & a Canadian Women's refuge.

Californian case linked earlier.
thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3266198-No-True-Transwoman-transadvocates-question-whether-TW-is-genuine-after-said-TW-sexually-harasses-women-in-homeless-shelter

Canadian case:
mobile.twitter.com/i/moments/1023694874015612929

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321676-canadian-refuge

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:33

arranfan

Yes, you are right. It's necessary to point out to the casual observer that there has been no violence towards TW from so-called T**fs, but plenty the other way around

Ereshkigal · 01/09/2018 15:41

https://twitter.com/SadistHailey/status/1035548299380502529?s=20

Yeah, this happened Grin

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:42

Eresh

I feel a whip might have been involved in the re-education somewhere Grin

Ereshkigal · 01/09/2018 15:42

I can rock a flippy skirt of Hate.

Ereshkigal · 01/09/2018 15:44

feel a whip might have been involved in the re-education somewhere

It would have to be! What gender critical woman would listen to a misogynistic person like this otherwise?

RedToothBrush · 01/09/2018 15:54

Maybe in order to achieve their mission the, the TRA deradicalisation team could go to a woman's place meeting and talk to 'the evil terfs' rather shout at them or lecture them.

Just y'know, an out there thought.

arranfan · 01/09/2018 16:49

Ereshkigal - I'm going to confess to a sneaking admiration for SadistHaley (?) here. It's to difficult for an academic to get a journal/paper authors to respond to you in a timely fashion and yet, there PLOS is, falling over itself to issue assurances of investigation.

I need a quiet, dark room.

ballsballsballs · 01/09/2018 17:37

I'm highly amused at the concern trolling about women wanting to exit the T**f movement.

Ereshkigal · 01/09/2018 19:03

@LadybirdsAreBirds

I have no words. The language does not have the words.

twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1035939367926353920?s=20

arranfan · 01/09/2018 19:15

As ever, Dr Stock is spot on.

It is raising an uncomfortable thought for me.

Would it be better if the major political parties and women's organisations gave up all pretence of having women's backs? Give up the rhetoric of women's committees and groups and Special Interest panels.

Because, sometimes, pretending that you have an commitment, and procedures in place, is more dangerous than admitting that nothing exists beyond a deceptive name and some soothing rhetoric? (It's well established that companies that virtue signal their equalities etc. in their annual reports routinely have a substantially worse workplace reality than their competitors.)

Ereshkigal · 01/09/2018 19:49

You don't say.

twitter.com/SadistHailey/status/1014735847650836480?s=20

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 01/09/2018 19:59

TS Hailey Heartless
@SadistHailey
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31 Aug
I've done some work with a few former TERFs here in Vancouver. It's exhausting work and you need a lot of patience. You also can't expect them to give up all their harmful attitudes quickly, a lot of it is really deeply ingrained.

^^
One of the funniest things I have ever read. Like people who aren’t happy to sell themselves, their sex and their children down the river are terrorists.

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