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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MN is a 'Hate group' apparently.

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KlutzyDraconequus · 19/08/2018 10:25

Apologies for spoiling your Sunday, but i thought I'd best let you all know, according to some on an external site... Everyone here is part of a hate group..
I had no idea tbh.

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FlatPackFurnitureCompAnyone · 20/08/2018 20:53

Ah but it’s none of your business what someone has in their pants anonymous 🙄

Popchyk · 20/08/2018 21:59

They might have penises, anonymouse, but we don't know their gender. Therefore we can't possibly draw any conclusions from these statistics of 100% of penis-owning people.

That's how the BBC would frame it anyway in their Reality Check.

ChattyLion · 20/08/2018 22:01

V powerful post anonymouse

R0wantrees · 20/08/2018 22:56

For "hate", read "demanding female-only dormitories, changing rooms, psychiatric wards, prisons, rape group therapy, and saunas, and DV shelters that admit females and their children, not adult males". For "hate", read "demanding that the GRA be kept as-is and that sex-based EA exemptions be strengthened".

January 2018 'Lancaster mum with “fear of men” locked on hospital ward with transgender patient.
A Lancaster mum whose bi-polar disorder left her believing men were conspiring to kill her said she was left terrified when she was locked on a women’s psychiatric ward with an “extremely male-bodied” transgender patient.'
www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/lancaster-mum-with-fear-of-men-locked-on-hospital-ward-with-transgender-patient-1-8963648

June 2018 Californian Women's Homeless Shelter: 'Shelter forced women to shower with person who identified as a transgender woman and sexually harassed them, lawsuit says'

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3266198-No-True-Transwoman-transadvocates-question-whether-TW-is-genuine-after-said-TW-sexually-harasses-women-in-homeless-shelter

August 2018 Alaska: 'Anti-Discrimination Laws Are Wielded against a Shelter for Battered Women'
www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/anti-discrimination-laws-used-against-battered-women-shelter

haxxor · 21/08/2018 16:07

especially when it's already happened in a Canadian women's refuge.

Californian, it's the one R0wantrees linked to. Point is, it's happening already.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 21/08/2018 16:44

Stats re murder and suicide caused by male perpetrators of DV:

One woman in four experiences domestic violence in her lifetime (Office for National Statistics (2016) Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences, 2014/15)

Two women are killed each week by a current or former partner in England and Wales (Office for National Statistics (2016) Compendium – Homicide (average taken over 10 years)

In the year ending March 2016, 1.2 million women reported experiences of domestic abuse in England and Wales (Office for National Statistics (2016) Domestic Abuse in England and Wales: year ending March 2016)

Whilst this number is shocking, we also know it is grossly underestimated. The cap on the number of violent crimes published, set at five per victim, means that even if a woman experienced 100 incidents of domestic violence, only five would make it into the official data. Thanks to research by Professor Sylvia Walby, we know that were the cap to be removed, the number of incidents of domestic violence would increase by approximately 70%.

That every day almost 30 women attempt suicide as a result of experiencing domestic violence

That every week three women take their own lives to escape abuse

That there is currently no ‘liability for suicide’ law under which an abusive partner can be prosecuted for the suicide of their victim?

Source 1

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Katrinamakingwaves · 01/09/2018 13:56

If there’s a chip on her shoulder, it’s only fallen from the block above

MN is a 'Hate group' apparently.
Turph · 01/09/2018 14:45

If we're a hate group do we get a cool uniform? Asking for a friend.

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 14:49

In Looking Glass world, concern for children and vulnerable women is "hate". Apparently.

NotTerfNorCis · 01/09/2018 14:52

TRAs discussing how to 'deradicalise' us. GrinGrinGrin

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 15:06

NotTerfNorCis

THAT is the best example of projection I've ever seen.

Love the notion of some "Terfs" 'reaching out' and needing 'non-Terfs' they can talk to to 'de-radicalise'.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:08

I prefer the term Brigade

Can we please be a hate brigade? Our uniforms could be Boden and pearls

TheChampagneGalop · 01/09/2018 15:09

What is an ex-terf? A woman who used to understand biology but then saw a pink "Some women have penises" poster and saw the light?

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:10

LadybirdsAreBirds
I am not wearing Boden and pearls!

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:11

Are we sure that Sloth person isn't satirical?It's just really hard to tell

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 15:11

What is an ex-terf? A woman who used to understand biology but then saw a pink "Some women have penises" poster and saw the light?

Grin
LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:12

Turph

Aaaw - don't you think that would just really offend people? Especially a ditsy print and a kitten heel

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:13

LadybirdsAreBirds
It would offend my eyes Grin and probably yours

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:13

(it's clear I know far to much about Boden. Soz)

arranfan · 01/09/2018 15:14

hate group do we get a cool uniform?

MN Hate Groups are so rubbish that there's no agreed uniform, period or topic of hate, or even rituals. iirc, no agreement on what would constitute "hate" tho', for some, it seems intellectual enquiry that opens up the possibility there is a different point of view is sufficient.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:15

Anyway, Hate Group is old hat. I thought MN was a Radicalisation Portal (ver Stargate)

Turph · 01/09/2018 15:15
Grin We're not having dungarees, Birkenstocks, Doc martens or fleece as a uniform either! But I agree we should be a Brigade
RogerAllamsFangirl · 01/09/2018 15:17

Ladybirds, can it be "sassy" and worn with a "flippy" skirt? Which reminds me, I've got a voucher code

VickyEadie · 01/09/2018 15:17

Isn't our uniform incredibly sturdy pyjamas, though?

LadybirdsAreBirds · 01/09/2018 15:18

Roger

Oh yy to 'flippy' skirt. A Blazer, too, of course.

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