Looks like Grindr are setting up a trans version... but the name...

[ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen]

They've chosen is "kindr".

Given the disturbing underground usage of the term "kind" is that not an odd choice?

They've not said exactly what the new app is but from the video it does imply it's trans-focused.

Is it not just supposed to be ‘kinder’ as in ‘more kind’ to tackle the outrageous racism and general nastyness on grinder. People will state their dating preferences in extremely offensive ways I have seen ‘no fats no blacks’ writen on profiles.

Now I wouldn't be so crass as to post someone's twitter name here, thus pointing focus on that person, unlike them as they don't even cover up names being screen shot here.

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(Waves to twitter)
I'm just going to mention again, from reading around this, it doesn't look like a separate new app, despite this thread's title.

It looks like it is a campaign to 'address' transphobia on Grindr as well as other 'isms/shaming'. With a title with unfortunate associations

Many people have pondered on these threads in the past why #get the L out type of activity hasn't really taken off in the same way amongst gay men.

I think it's because it doesn't really affect them on the whole. This is probably the first time that there is a more obvious challenge to gay men who use Tindr of why they might be 'phobic' in not considering trans people in their dating pool.

It's already prompting the same conversations Magdalen's been having forever, but in reverse (ie gay not lesbian):

Could prompt some new eyes to be opened to the gender-critical issues.

Jesus wept.
I’m really hoping this is just a wind up and Chris Morris is about to appear.

I get ya sturdy!

In that case it will be interesting. Men are not held to the same standards of ‘being nice’ as women are. The man who had the ‘I care not for the opinions of the transactivists. You may quote me’ line was not piled on. So far not much of this has affected men.

I know a lot of us have said that when this does affect men, we may see some movement. So let’s see what happens.

I would suspect men will be free to happily state their dating preferences and women will not.

Twitter TRAs are cross that we are high-lighting the commercial suicide of naming a dating app Kindr?

Claiming our highlighting the name is the problem, not the name itself.

Something called focus groups, that marketing companies pay an absolute fortune for?

Got it.

Oh it's much worse than that Datun, this place needs to be shut down, police called, lawyers to be brought in, and I disgust them. Strong words. Just none of them remotely concerned with the conflation of the name Kindr with anything untoward.

Found it.

Nice bit of disablist language being tossed in there.

Chamomile tea 😂😂😂

Yes apparently we’ve pointed out the VERY FUCKING OBVIOUS connection to children in order to get trans people attacked

That is absolutely appalling! I cant believe they have let that name stand given what its meanings are

It is worth reading the pinknews link. The story there is that kindr is to be a version of grindr in which efforts are made to filter out racism. The involvement of Munroe Bergdorf relates to the anti-racism aspect and is not about trans. It's worthwhile being aware of the facts here.

Oh it's much worse than that Datun, this place needs to be shut down, police called, lawyers to be brought in, and I disgust them.

On another day we'd be paid for this advice!

nauticant

I'm all for filtering out racism. But a different name. 'Nicer'. 'Calmr'. Koolr.

Or just delete racists off Grindr?

They might want to take a look at some of the other tweets that appear when you search Kindr...

It’s not just us making that connection we aren’t allowed to point out.

It’s the name of actual kindergartens!

It’s also the name of a (very attractive to children) animated game.

What the hell were they thinking?

Jesus wept. I think the IDEA is great. The name though is problematic.

If kindr is to filter out racism (good) then why are there people posting about “shaking up the cis-tem”?

sexual racism, and transphobia and body shaming'.

Sexual racism is not being sexually attracted to a particular race? That is acceptable. It's unavoidable.

Transphobia and body shaming often means claiming a penis is female and don't say otherwise just because that doesn't meet your 'impossible beauty standards' of what it means to be female.

I'm saying there might be mischief afoot and there's no harm in being aware of this and cautious SisterNotCisTerf.

I've never been on a dating app, so I may not be getting it. But if someone is putting something racist on their profile, even unkind, can't that person be put on a warning/deleted?

Nintendo spent a fortune deciding on "Wii" to name their console and in Geordieland it was promptly dubbed the "Wi-i", pronounced “why I". "Kindr" is about as well-thought-out as names go.

TBH, I don't see how stopping people from putting "no fats, no blacks" in their profiles is going to actually improve matters. Instead of seeing straight away that a guy isn't interested, you'll chat and send pics and then find out, wasting both yopur times. It would make more sense to have a set of ticky-boxes "I am..." and another set "I am interested in..." and then use the ticked boxes to match people.

Have I done/said something that is dangerous nauticant?

No, you haven't. I'm just saying that following the speculation upthread, that I've participated in, I've now decided to step back until I learn more.

Surely instead of creating a whole new “racism free” app, which is essentially validating the “racist dating one”, Grindr could actually just address the racism on the existing app and delete racist users?

Ah ok, yes sensible enough.