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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Violent yob, 41, who stabbed man in the liver during 'noise row' at apartment block will serve two-year sentence in an all-women's jail

104 replies

hungryhippie · 08/08/2018 14:02

Another violent man whos going to be doing his time in a women's prison...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6038645/Violent-yob-41-stabbed-man-chest-serve-stretch-womens-prison.html

OP posts:
CholloDeNombre · 09/08/2018 11:23

I'm so pissed off about this.

R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 11:25

Ceri Jenkins who wrote the petition is the Equality Officer at Bath Spa University.

"Founder of the national Gender Equality Network. Stonewall School Role Model. Columnist for DIVA Magazine. Campaign lead for #ISeeTara, #RechargeAndResist, and #SelfCareAware. I've also enjoyed running an award-winning blog covering current affairs and opinion pieces, as well as contributing to the likes of The Independent, the BBC, and The Huffington Post."

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:26

#iseeTarahasaseveninchsurprise

Idiot.

wacademia · 09/08/2018 11:27

Found that citation: "Normal Life" by Dean Spade.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 09/08/2018 11:27

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:29

Relevant context for anyone not familiar:

www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/tara-hudson-imprisoned-by-identity-politics/17593#.W2wXQEHTXYU

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:30

Clarice, Tara will be impressed that you've enlarged the surprise package!

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 09/08/2018 11:33

How much did Tara say it was? I remember reading 8"

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:34

It was a "seven inch surprise".

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:34

Great use of alliteration.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 09/08/2018 11:34

Oh by an inch according to Spiked.

Still a big cock.

Cauliflowersqueeze · 09/08/2018 11:39

Why not put him in a segregated wing for all the trans prisoners. They can have their girly chats about stabbing people together.

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 11:43

I support this as a third space option.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 09/08/2018 11:46

Yes - what kind of nail polish doesn't chip when you give an upper cut with a bunch of fives.
Which brand of bras work best for keeping in chicken filets when you stomp on heads. That kind of thing.

AngryAttackKittens · 09/08/2018 11:53

Given that the prison service have it at their discretion to decide where trans identifying males are sent, what possible logic is there for sending this one to a women's prison? If you needed proof that the whole "oh well the prison service is able to make judgements about who goes into a women's prison, so they'll be sensible about who they do send there" isn't working then this person is exhibit A.

Cauliflowersqueeze · 09/08/2018 11:53

Best foundation which doesn’t smudge when head butting?

Ereshkigal · 09/08/2018 12:01

If you needed proof that the whole "oh well the prison service is able to make judgements about who goes into a women's prison, so they'll be sensible about who they do send there" isn't working then this person is exhibit A.

Indeed.

R0wantrees · 09/08/2018 12:02

Re Tara Hudson's petition:

cerianjenkins.com/

"Founder of the Gender Equality Network (_GEN). Stonewall School Role Model. Campaigns manager of #ISeeTara, #NotACompliment, and #SelfCareAware. Campaign Bootcamp graduate. Founder of the #RechargeAndResist project. Member of the B&NES Independent Equality
Advisory Group, and the Challenging Homphobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia Group.

I’m a columnist for DIVA Magazine, and my campaigning work has been featured in/on: The Independent, The Guardian, BBC News, New Statesman, Metro, the Telegraph, ITV, Buzzfeed, Huffington Post, the Express, the Mirror, Attitude Magazine, Gay Star News, Pink News, and more. I have also written for organisations such as The Fawcett Society and the Women’s Equality Party. "

recent threads:
Fawcett Society:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3311428-Why-are-Fawcett-staying-so-silent-Are-they-afraid

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3310443-Fawcett-Society-Live-stream-from-5-30pm-Courage-Calls-Ask-her-to-stand

WEP:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3318961-Ultimate-betrayal-by-the-WEP

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3325882-WEP-conference-questions-for-panel-of-trans-rights-advocating-barristers

AngryAttackKittens · 09/08/2018 12:03

Is some poor woman who couldn't afford to pay her TV license going to be forced to share a cell with this person? If so, do the prison service think that's OK?

Pretty sure that counts as cruel and unusual punishment.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 09/08/2018 12:06

Indeed cauliflower and which must-carry blending brush best restores any contouring after dabbing the blood spatters off.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 09/08/2018 12:13

thread about the alleged sexual assault of four female prisoners by a male-born person in prison:

There is not, I think, any need for "male born" when talking about these prisoners - nor to mention penises. By definition the prisoners that the press report as "transgender" are, in law as well as in fact, men; the press would not be allowed to say they were transgender if they held a GRC.

AngryAttackKittens · 09/08/2018 12:13

Some enterprising person could make a kit especially for those moments where your delicate feminine rage has led to an unfortunate headbutting/stabbing your neighbor incident.

LangCleg · 09/08/2018 14:12

Given that the prison service have it at their discretion to decide where trans identifying males are sent, what possible logic is there for sending this one to a women's prison? If you needed proof that the whole "oh well the prison service is able to make judgements about who goes into a women's prison, so they'll be sensible about who they do send there" isn't working then this person is exhibit A.

Going by that list of previous, this one is that person down the pub you don't catch the eye of or look sideways at because they're known for explosive rage and you might get glassed.

(It's fucking ridiculous that I have to say person in this comment to avoid a deletion because we all know that I don't mean person. It's like typing in hobo code or something.)

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 09/08/2018 14:53

Instead of forcing women to accept males in their estates shouldn't we be forcing men to accept other men who may have different gender identities?

I don't think men have a problem accepting men with a variety of genders - there's plenty of men sticking up for transpeople on twitter and in local councils after all. It's that males with a variety of genders want to be in women's spaces.

This person is in a women's prison because they want it, it's nothing to do with the wants and needs of anyone else.

IDontEatFriedTurtle · 09/08/2018 15:32

ntends to undergo gender reassignment treatment. ===== I wonder who will be footing the bill for that.

From the comments, it's actually a fairly common comment in these stories

Like that's the only bit of the story that they are concerned about.