Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

[CaitlynsCat]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

Women's voices silenced once again then Fermats.

Actual women I mean, of course.

I thought Jess was non binary so anyone calling 'them' she on here was misgendering them.

(nb my quote marks have been carefully placed)

I suspect that the Carter Ruck bill will be paid by some TRAs with deep pockets.

Absolutely there are two distinct threads to this.

The Cliff Richard case setting a precedent, and Jess Bradley's case.

Both are really, really scary and the more I think about it, the more worried I am that they're ending up linked like this.

Cui bono?

According to their Twitter profile they prefer she or they.

And another well know TRA shows his true feathers. My nomination list for the TERF Awards 2019 grows fast. They make so many reach peak trans, it's really fantastic.

At this stage we do not know if the twitter account was a complete set-up - the pictures may or may not have been of JB's penis, even if they were, they may or may not have been taken at JB's desk with the office door locked and therefore no risk whatsoever of a third party walking in.

There are also pictures taken in a train carriage, public park and bus stop.

I can see why they want to shut down the reporting. How many people would peak trans upon reading an article in an actual newspaper saying that a woman was suspended for flashing her penis in public?

RhythmStix perhaps you are angry, as are many people here, but I feel that calling for anyone to be "castrated" is unhelpful in the extreme (and not, I would imagine, something that the majority of posters here would support).

From the article

Ms Bradley declined to comment, but has instructed libel lawyers Carter Ruck.The law firm sought to prevent the publication of the story on privacy grounds

Privacy rather than libel is reportedly the reason for attempts to prevent the article.

Where does a right to privacy begin and end, legally? Is it the 'public interest' aspect?

Because I'd think this is very much in the public interest. Although TRAs would of course say that it's not...

Do women flash very much? I've only really heard of/seen men going this (apart from the odd streaker).

YY to Carter Ruck’s challenge being on privacy rather than libel.

Jess’ statement makes absolutely no effort to deny any of the allegations, instead stating that he hasn’t done anything “unlawful”. He might as well have posted it on the exhibitionizm blog

Guilty or not, I think this is going to throw up some very interesting questions in all sorts of areas.

Does anyone know own why it seems to solely be an NUS investigation, and not a police one?

This is bizarre behaviour and at age 29 can't be put down to student stupidity. Multiple pics so not a drunken lapse. And it isn't art it's flashing.
If I took pics of my genitals at work in my job as a GP and me knicker less on park bench etc and did a blog about it the press would be very interested as would the GMC the health board and my GP partners. There would also be concerns for my sanity.
Jess sounds underemployed so the NUS can save 24k a year and charge students less for membership.

Some of the "dares" are encouraging people to wank in public toilets and not stop if someone comes in. The toilets referred to were male (urinals) but it's very easy to see how for "thrill seekers" that it could escalate to women's if/when access is made easier due to sex based protections being eroded. The problem with this line if fetish is it's never enough and will keep getting more and more extreme to recreate the original feelings, much like a drug.

Exactly the thing women were told we should shut up about and it wasn't a risk.

I can just see how this will unfold anyway. With a fake apology saying that they are so confused by their gender identity that they just couldn't help it. And calling for more understanding as to why such people need to be able to get their penis out in public because denying them the right to do so is transphobic and hateful.

Twitter comment which preceded the publication of photographs etc

'Statement on Public Disclosures, By a Trans Woman & Survivor'

twitter.com/xNoMoreSilencex/status/1021377628912193538

Survivors of what?

Women are just getting worse and worse

Beating up someone in a Tube station. Now this.

Standards are certainly slipping.

Twitter comment which preceded the publication of photographs etc

That is interesting.

Carter Ruck absolutely do have a 'no win no fee' service.

I just checked out their partners online and one of them is credited with being the architect of it.

Privacy rather than libel is reportedly the reason for attempts to prevent the article.

Hilarious that privacy is the reason!

Blog on flashing in public and ‘privacy’ is an issue?

It looks like the court rejected the Carter Ruck appempt to cite Cliff Richard and the fact this was a private in some sense blog. I think earlier case law anyway including a policeman called Night Jack held that if you blog even anonymously then you have chosen to take the risk of exposure. (If you don't want to take these risks - and for some they are aroused by the risk - people (mostly men to be honest) always have been - look at Hugh Grant with that prostitute in a car years ago - it makes them more aroused). They are fair game. They could instead have kept their thoughts to themselves and masturbated in private.

If anyone in the UK posts pictures of what in this case are allegedly exposing themselves at work they all know they risk getting sacked. If it is photos of someone else it is still conduct that could breach many a work employee policy. The only situation in which the suspension should be lifted surely is if someone hacked in and planetd this whole thing. The statement issued suggests that did not happen.

The issue of what you can write about your private life and how that affects your job has long exercised the courts. A couple of business people who did not know each otehr - male and female - decided to have random oral sex on a business flight home and got sacked. They were spotted. Royal Mail football hooligans were fairly dismissed for violence at matches when off duty as brought employer into disrepute. People who write staff policies know how hard this is however - one person might go hunting at weekends and another to nudist colonies, one might sing in a choir and one might lobby against religions. I lie in my garden only in my knickers not for sexual kicks but because I like the sun on me - but someone might fly a drone over, take photos, argue I was causing a breach of the police (you cannot see me); I have been on nudist beaches which is a lawful activity. The difference here I would say is that getting your penis out on a tube to arouse yourself is illegal and I remember 2 men diong that to me by the way when I was 17 or 18 on a late night train and they had a porn mag out too. I just sat there thinking it was safest not to say a word which is probably what they hoped and they got off on....anyway I digress.... there is far too much of this about.

Nope. Fake news. Statement is fake. This doesn't happen.

I'm sure the usual suspects will be along soon to confirm this didn't happen and were all imagining it.

Simon Blake, head of the NUS, is a Stonewall trustee. That may be one possible answer...

Find it very interesting that someone who has done 'nothing unlawful' has instructed the big guns to fight their case.

On a separate note, I am genuinely confused and wonder if someone could explain - how can one be both non-binary and a woman? Surely that's an inherent contradiction? Any help?