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David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'

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hungryhippie · 17/07/2018 08:00

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5960893/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-David-Starkey-73-moans-career-ruined-old-ugly-women.html

"Outspoken historian David Starkey — one of television's most prolific Tudor experts — claims that his broadcasting career has been ruined by the popularity of his female rivals."

Maybe they are just better than you David?
What an arsehole

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HuguenotJo · 18/07/2018 02:42

There are quite a few good female historians on TV now, helped no doubt by Mary Beard forging the trail. As well as Helen Castor, mentioned above, there's Suzannah Lipscomb and Kate Williams. I also like Alice Roberts on historical subjects, although she has so many strings to her bow I should think the world has lost count. Maybe we need a "Kick misogyny out of history" campaign, along the lines of "Kick racism out of football".

WeirdScenesInsideTheGoldmine · 18/07/2018 04:57

We love love love Janina Ramirez in this house, she cannot SUPPRESS her passion for her topics, I love the way she stomps around being so gothic. She is massively charismatic and enthusiastic and it’s utterly contagious. (Not the charisma bit, sadly, I have no friends😩😩)

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/07/2018 08:01

We love Janina Ramirez too. I love the fact she's a goth with a PHD on the symbolism of birds.

Bettany Hughes I like too.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/07/2018 08:03

Also, has Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou done anything recently? She's great.

Melamin · 18/07/2018 08:37

He used to be on a lot of things when Simon Sharma was on a lot of things - and he didn't like Simon Sharma either. It rather puts me off him - that he finds so many people to publicly say he doesn't like.

Mary Beard is ace. Watched all her programmes before visiting Pompeii.

HuguenotJo · 18/07/2018 08:44

Oh, yes, to Janina Ramirez and Bettany Hughes. Terrific.

speakingwoman · 18/07/2018 09:01

Mary Beard you rock! Thanks for popping in and have a lovely day.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/07/2018 10:28

Just scrolled back to Yesterday 14:19

Hi Prof Beard!!

Thanks for dropping by!

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 12:26

I love Mary Beard, natch. But I also love Joann Fletcher. Egyptology is her bag.

David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'
Pythagonal · 18/07/2018 13:53

Thanks Judas, I was trying to remember her surname!

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/07/2018 14:00

Thanks I couldn't remember her name. I love the way she speaks with a broad regional accent. Really unusual for TV academics.

ohamIreally · 18/07/2018 15:15

Can't link to it but please check out the New Statesman article on this very subject about how David Starkey's stunning good looks have affected his career ! @marybeard if you're still following this thread I hope it gives you a chuckle. I loved Women & Power by the way and often reflect on it.

Melamin · 18/07/2018 16:44

Mmmmmmm that was pretty damning Grin

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 18/07/2018 16:49

David Starkey is a pugnacious shitweasel.

MinaPaws · 18/07/2018 16:55

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard. She has a gorgeous warm face with intelligent eyes and fantastic hair. Not that that should matter as it's her outstanding mind and depth of knowledge that got her the job.

She's the best.

ohamIreally · 18/07/2018 17:06

@Melamin thanks for the clicky link

Melanippe · 18/07/2018 17:12

Love Mary Beard.

One of the highlights of my Twitter account is that she occasionally likes some of my tweets. And she replied to me once.

I love that she says what she thinks and backs it up with evidence. I've found the way she has been attacked at various times incredibly vile, but she deals with it like a pro. If I ever grow up, I should like to be just like her right down to the lovely red shoes.

80sMum · 18/07/2018 17:23

I have never come across a more boring, monotonous drone on TV than Mr Starkey! He has the ability to make even the most fascinating subject seem tedious and dull. Whenever he is on the TV I find myself nodding off after 10 minutes or so.

Mary Beard, on the other hand, is dynamic and engaging and brings the subject to life, making me sit up and take notice.

I'm sure they both know their subject inside out. But knowledge of a subject doesn't make one a good teacher or, as in this case, a good presenter.

DuggeesWoggle · 18/07/2018 17:23

So chuffed that the great MB has popped into this thread, I would so love to have a good chat with her. Her recent lecture on the treatment of women through history was fascinating - I wonder what she makes of the whole transactivism thing. I expect she would be able to point to parallel movements in history and the impact on women's rights.

David Starkey? Meh.

BBC 4 has loads of great female historians on and it matters not one bit what they look like (although o do love Janina Ramirez's gothness). They are intelligent articulate women and long may it continue!

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/07/2018 17:28

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard.

Absolutely nothing. Nothing whatsoever! She’s a perfectly normal looking woman, it’s SO bloody annoying to hear her described like that isn’t it? Women! Be decorative at all times or you’re worthless! Regardless of intelligence, personality, warmth, steely intellect or ability.

It’s my dream that one day we will be advanced enough as a species to have a ‘phwoar, look at the intellect on her’ moment or two :) still waiting....

bellinisurge · 18/07/2018 17:54

Hooray, another Janina Ramirez fan. As well as the great MB, of course.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2018 18:24

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard.

Her intelligence.
So unbecoming in a woman, don't you think?
Also, she keeps opening her mouth and speaking

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 19:00

Still trying to figure out what is ugly about Mary Beard
Absolutely nothing. Nothing whatsoever! She’s a perfectly normal looking woman
Actually, sorry bowl, I’d have to disagree with you for once, in a somewhat, possibly unfeministy way (but sod it I’m going to say it anyway!). I don’t think she’s perfectly normal. Look at her, the sexy minx, she looks amazing. I love her hair, she looks kind and warm and generous and that makes her very attractive afaiac. And, of course, we know how intelligent she is. I’m mean, you know, just phwoar all round really.

David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'
Judashascomeintosomemoney · 18/07/2018 19:01

Oh Pythagonal, only just seen that, yes she’s brilliant isn’t she? I’d watch her just reading a train timetable tbh, she’d still make it amazing!

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