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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lesbians react to London Pride

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garam · 08/07/2018 19:28

Some very passionate responses from the lesbian community, since the anti-trans protests.

When Jennifer James pushed to sue the labour party, the result was the labour party clarified it's position as self-id for AWS

This has a similar ring to it, as the anti-trans protesters tried to co-opt the lesbian community, there has been a vocal backlash and clarification of support for trans people.

There's a hashtag to check out... twitter.com/hashtag/LWithTheT?src=hash

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Datun · 09/07/2018 14:05

It's not a subset, it's the mainstream LGBT organisations, erasing lesbian identity, supported by trans people.

Exactly. It's Stonewall, Pride themselves, and apparently Diva, too.

Lesbians deciding to remove themselves from the LGBT, is infuriating to the men who require them as a source of sex.

'Lesbian only' is going to be a reclamation of mammoth proportions. It's going to mean what it says on the tin. No boys allowed.

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:08

LeiaTheSlaya fair play to you for coming out and admitting it. A lot of people on here pretend they have no problem with all trans people but at least you're honest and admit you do.

titchy · 09/07/2018 14:08

Maybe someone should introduce all the male lesbians to each other. I'm sure they'd quite happily accept each other's female penises....

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:10

'Lesbian only' is going to be a reclamation of mammoth proportions. It's going to mean what it says on the tin. No boys allowed.

Out of interest, do you think you should be allowed Datun? As a straight woman?

YourMajestyJ · 09/07/2018 14:12

Maybe someone should introduce all the male lesbians to each other. I'm sure they'd quite happily accept each other's female penises....

I wonder if any of the ones on here have hooked up? One is already married and thus taken though apparently.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 09/07/2018 14:14

Is Datun allowed to do what? Sleep with lesbians? Confused

ImpYCelyn · 09/07/2018 14:15

Maybe someone should introduce all the male lesbians to each other. I'm sure they'd quite happily accept each other's female penises....

Yes I've been saying this for ages. No one has given me an explanation as to why this isn't happening. Any suggestion of this just passes unnoticed. I wonder why...

Datun · 09/07/2018 14:17

Out of interest, do you think you should be allowed Datun? As a straight woman?

Allowed to what? Go on a lesbian only dating site? No, I don't.

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:18

We don't have any trans posters on this thread YourMajestyJ?

Unless you are insinuating I am lying and am secretly trans?

Why would I lie? I'm hardly likely to be ashamed about it considering my position.

If I was trans I would happily admit it but I'm not.

LeiaTheSlaya · 09/07/2018 14:20

Ah of course, objecting to abusive, bullying behaviour is 'having a problem with transwomen'. Keep going Daim, we are all just hanging off your every word.

Still no condemnation of the abuse of lesbians though eh? Cos they're meanies saying they're female homosexuals. Damn those pesky lesbians!

ImpYCelyn · 09/07/2018 14:20

See, still no response to the suggestion.

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:20

Datun what about Pride, as a straight person should you be allowed appear in the Pride parade?

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 09/07/2018 14:24

Obviously pride is about celebrating gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, intersex, queer, questioning, asexual, pansexual people as well I didn't realise I had to list them all each time.

Cool. I'm a straight woman (mostly). But I reckon I can shoehorn myself into one of those. I quite like a party and glitter unicorns so it would be entirely appropriate for me to make Pride about me, right?

I think I'm going to go with... ..ah...questionning?

LeiaTheSlaya · 09/07/2018 14:24

Anyone else's bingo card full yet?Grin

Datun · 09/07/2018 14:26

daimbars

I don't know enough about Pride. I don't know what the rules are.
If it's for LGBT only, then no.

If it's for people who are not LGBT, but are 'friends', which I believe is one of the initials, then yes.

I don't make up the rules, though.

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:26

CertainHalfDesertedStreets you would be more than welcome at Pride as long as your intention wasn't to be hateful towards another group the event is celebrating.

daimbars · 09/07/2018 14:29

I don't know enough about Pride. I don't know what the rules are.

This says it all really. It's very simple, it's a once a year event to celebrate LGBTQI people and a safe space where they are protected from harassment.

The only rule is you must not be hateful towards LGBTQI people.

BabyItsAWildWorld · 09/07/2018 14:32

Then why did you ask Datun if she as a straight person could go to Pride?

The illogical jumping around of the argument makes my head hurt.

BabyItsAWildWorld · 09/07/2018 14:33

Daim, what do yo think about lesbians setting up female only groups?

ImpYCelyn · 09/07/2018 14:35

Err, no. That isn't actually a rule (as a lot of bisexuals and lesbians could tell you). The actual rules are about the parade itself: route, group sizes etc.

There were plenty of straight males in the parade this year. I think Datun would be fine.

Datun · 09/07/2018 14:36

I don't know enough about Pride. I don't know what the rules are.

This says it all really.

Eh? What does it say? It doesn't say anything. It says if there are rules, I don't know them.

It's you who seems to be missing something here. Those lesbians were PROTESTING.

Breaking the rules is a necessary part of civil unrest.

Wrybread · 09/07/2018 14:38

daimbars why have you ignored all the screenshots of people promoting lesbians rape/coercive sex culture?

ImpYCelyn · 09/07/2018 14:38

Also, it's not a "safe space". They used to march through all kinds of homophobic abuse, and that was the point. And protests have always been part of it. But yes, it is also a celebration.

YourMajestyJ · 09/07/2018 14:39

We don't have any trans posters on this thread YourMajestyJ?

Unless you are insinuating I am lying and am secretly trans?

Why would I lie? I'm hardly likely to be ashamed about it considering my position.

If I was trans I would happily admit it but I'm not.

Why would you think that was about you? 🤔

Knicknackpaddyflak · 09/07/2018 14:43

But you asked..... and she said.... so where the frick did that statement come from? And how does it even relate to the conversation? And aren't we back to the point from the start of the thread? Hmm

There comes a point where it's just an endless repetition of The Duck Song.

Anyone got any good honey cake recipes?