Why are trans things discussed in Feminism section not a separate topic or have I missed something?

[PearlyG8]

Slightly confused. Apologies for any unintended offence.

We try to discuss how the currently contemplated amendment to to GRA will affect women's rights as well as the way the EA is being implemented.
Unfortunately Transgender advocates have repeatedly stated that women's rights are anti-transgender, and so women must be prevented from speaking about women's rights. There have been bomb threats and demonstrations at women's rights gatherings as well as a number of transgender advocates come to FWR to test the MNHQ claim that they support "free speech".

Important to remember that the currently banned acronym stands for transgender exclusive Radical Feminists. Women said no to transitioners who insisted they had a right to be included in Feminist groups because they identify as women.

It is because biology matters.

I appreciate your reply.

I am probably an idiot for posting when I should be asleep. I don't mean to suggest there's something wrong with the discussions you describe being in Feminism but I wonder if a Trans topic/section should exist or does exist.

While some Feminists have wondered why the transgender advocates insist on posting here in Feminism and Women's Rights as far as I know MNHQ has not offered to give them a board nor do they appear to want it. The usual modus operandi for men's rights activists is to take over Feminist boards by flooding them to drive the Feminists out then abandon the board.

Well, you could always campaign for it, if that is how you feel.

If what is how who feels? I am confused.

Written before I read that post by thebewilderness, who expresses it far better.

Ha, cross-posted again!

Now we are both confused together as it should be.

I may be mistaken but it seems to me that other Feminism threads might be in danger of being swamped by a topic which needs it's own space. Even if that space is a sub section within feminism.

I have seen threads moved from various sections into e.g. Relationships where the OP would get more help or I seem to remember out of AIBU into more appropriate place.

The usual modus operandi for men's rights activists is to take over Feminist boards by flooding them to drive the Feminists out then abandon the board.

I've seen this on other forums, never thought it would happen here.

You should probably go to "Site Stuff" to ask MNHQ. We have no clue why they are doing things the way they are.

I hope you two are not excluding me from the confusion if you think this is all twaddle please put it down to sleepless muddleheadedness and ignore into oblivion.

We have all been in a state of confusion since a week ago last Friday when the new rules special for FWR went into effect.
So welcome to the confusion, I guess.

Aha, bewilderness, you have hit the nail on the head.

The world has truly lost all rationality when the workings of MNHQ are beyond comprehension.

But the trans issue is a matter that has a direct impact on women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity.

I understand that people who oppose women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity, already have their own fora and messageboards on the internet, so why not join them, instead?

OP, trans things are being discussed in the Feminism section because current trans issues have an impact on women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity.

"I understand that people who oppose women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity, already have their own fora and messageboards on the internet, so why not join them, instead?"

Because there is an biological elitism attempt to take rights away from a particular group of women - trans women. That's a women's rights issue and belongs here.

I certainly have no understanding of the Rules of 15th June (or whatever the date was) but the effect (or do I mean intent) seems to me as a fairly naive reader to ban discussion of women and children's rights, safety, security, privacy and dignity which does not confirm to the Rules. Maybe.

I don't see how I'm going to avoid getting banned eventually.

You don't think Trans issues deserve a dedicated section Snappity?

What is biological elitism? Do you mean patriarchal oppression?

Snappy - I'm sorry, but "biological elitism"??!! Really??!!

John Bowles said something about biological elitism and it's also got something to do with primates apparently. I'm to inferior to do links or see relevance.

Fowles autocorrect.

There is an LGBT board. i don't know why transactivists don't use it for their campaigning. Well, I do.

This would have been a good thread to start in LGBT if you want a separate trans board.

The only thing under discussion on FWR is the impact on women's rights.