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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Handmaidens

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Terfulike · 21/06/2018 23:22

I seem to be coming across these people more and more in the last week or so. Admittedly the video I describe below is 8 months old.

However, there are definitely more numerous postings/videos from young females (of the traditional type) who are trying to educate us GC Radfems about being too exclusionary, if you catch my drift, as such types as us may be physically threatening... no examples given.

My reason for posting is that one just got my goat quite big time (clip clip clopping across the bridge of reason).

This young person of the type traditionally (although admittedly not currently) referred to as female, or even young woman, (though obviously not these days - I acknowledge that these are considered by most Britons to be archaic terms - please forgive my usage mn) was describing people of the type who post on this particular site who are a bit exclusionary wink wink catch my drift with great disdain.

Anyway said person said that the word "lesbian" is basically an "uncomfortable" word with "*exclusionary connotations" and is "just wierd". Hmmmmm what did someone say about erasure?

Moreover GC Radfems are said by said vlogerette to be in positions of great power and influence these days ready to turn the heads of gullible young feminists in completely inappropriate directions.

Further, said person claims any discussions of paralegal philandering (quick crossword clue) are utterly ridiculous!

This highly commended video ends with scoffing at ideas of the f body being at all relevant to feminism.

Apologies if this has been discused before.

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FloralBunting · 23/06/2018 00:05

makes sign of the cross

Even further back than the Holy Mother, though, surely. It's a term used in the Hebrew scriptures too, I believe. And in many slightly dodgy pagan inspired novels I've read.

thebewilderness · 23/06/2018 00:07

As we have often been told, it isn't an insult, it's a short hand description.
It has been around for thousands of years.
It seems to me it is another word that women can use to describe themselves, and men can use to describe women, but Feminists should never use because in our mouths it becomes a pejorative. Cool, huh?

LassWiADelicateAir · 23/06/2018 00:13

As we have often been told, it isn't an insult, it's a short hand description

Bit like the banned t word then? Just descriptive- nothing pejorative.

And other than in the context I quoted who , other than feminists, uses it ?

thebewilderness · 23/06/2018 00:26

Yes, the T word is the facetious reference I was making.
Men and women us it to praise submissive women as I said in my comment that you quoted part of.
You can look it up. Google is your friend. I am not.

LassWiADelicateAir · 23/06/2018 00:44

I don't know what point you are making or what I am supposed to look up.

As far as I am concerned both words are a lazy, bullying, way to try to shut down an argument.

But are you seriously saying men and women use it to praise submissive women? I am perfectly aware of what ecce ancilla domini means. Beyond its narrow religious and artistic use it's hardly an every day term is it?

I've never come across "handmaiden" being used in real life except on here by some posters on here to belittle and shut up other women. Just like the word you hate .

thebewilderness · 23/06/2018 00:56

Ignorance is no excuse.

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 04:15

I certainly wasn't trying to shut other women up Lass. I just have a right to have an opinion, and this is a suitable place to express it (I don't get out much). I have an opinion that young female students are being recruited by the TRA (permitted word) lobbyists.

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LassWiADelicateAir · 23/06/2018 05:07

Nothing to do with ignorance-although that response rather proves my point.

Terfulike I have the right to an opinion as well- and mine is I don't give much credence to women who shout out "handmaiden".

FloralBunting · 23/06/2018 08:41

Interesting. There were the stirrings of a discussion on the videos which were the topic of the thread.
And now, instead of discussing that, we are back to a back-and-forth about the acceptability of certain words.
So it doesn't actually look like the people who are ok with the use of handmaiden are the ones trying to shut down other women...

BertrandRussell · 23/06/2018 08:52

Catholics use "handmaid" as a positive description women on a regular basis. Proper biblical and all.

Now. Back to the videos.

BertrandRussell · 23/06/2018 08:56

And just as a passing commenr- it's interesting how whenever people want to criticise women's language, they are shouting or screaming or shrieking- never just saying or discussing.

pachyderm · 23/06/2018 09:01

Women have always colluded with patriarchal systems of control. Footbinding, FGM, honour killing, female infanticide, Magdalene laundries - all these abuses and more were carried out by/aided by women. The revolution of feminism was that it encouraged women to see themselves as a class and to realise that their oppression was based on membership of that class. Transactivism has driven a huge wedge into all of that with its reclassification of what a woman even is. It could never have happened without the internet and a pomo-soaked, poorly educated generation of young people. I had to step away from social media for a while as I found it so distressing, those young women's contempt for older women, and the crawling up to misogynistic shitty men.

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 10:08

We definitely lost the porn battle. Porn is giving momentum to this campaign.

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