3 strikes and you're out

[spontaneousgiventime]

Sorry to start this thread but I'm livid. I'm beyond livid to be fair.

I'm now on strike two and have been warned my posting privilege is at risk.

The reason for this thread is; please don't take the new guidelines at face value. I got a strike today for calling a man who presents as a woman a name NOT on the banned list. Obviously now I can't say what it was, I am effectively gagged.

I now have six weeks of no free speech until the strikes I have are wiped - again effectively gagged.

So, you won't see me much as I will NOT refer to men who present as women as the names we are allowed to call them, so will end up banned. I will post bland banal comments that can't offend any sensibilities here and let rip elsewhere where free speech is encouraged.

PLEASE, please, watch your words or MN will use this as a reason the close the FWR board.

spontaneousgiventime

Rowan grace under fire

Datun beautiful & inspiring

No bloody christmas

I think it would be really helpful if the most knowledgeable posters on here could find the time to post some links to good sources of info / useful threads e.g. on the Equality Act and the exemptions, crime facts and statistic and so on.

That way of us at the back who've been coasting along with broom handles for rifles could save them as a handy reference source.

Yes thank you. And if the list of banned words isn't in a readily available format, how are we supposed to know what they are? I can't even find Justine's post any more - why isn't it pinned to the top of site stuff given people are being banned for transgressions.

Woman = adult human female. My womanhood is not a feeling; it's a material, biological reality.

to spontaneous, maryz and r0wantrees

Floisme
Fairplay for women has huge amount of information:
fairplayforwomen.com

#ManFriday
manfridayuk.org

transcrimeuk.com
terfisaslur.com

there's a couple of threads that pull together a lot of links and resources, this one is especially helpful I think:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

I have been lurking on this site for about a decade and rarely post as I don’t have the confidence. I must have read just about every thread on this issue as I am chronically ill and bedridden, so have lots of time. I just want to thank all of the GC feminists on here for their sterling work so far and express my sadness that we may lose their voices.

I wish I were strong enough and knowledgeable enough to pick up the baton. There must be loads of others like me.

Hum ... the talk guidelines have a link to the trans issue section but it's actually just the talk guidelines link. Is this a known issue?

https://www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette

for Spontaneous and Maryz and any other GC poster on two strikes or worse. We stand with you.

Thanks R0wan I have saved and will start swotting up. Hopefully others will do the same.

MN Trans policy

have seen people who are not female speaking about their pain at being infertile before. I have also seen them claim to have experienced fgm

I have personally witness them goad breast cancer survivors on Twitter saying that cancer sufferers had a choice whether to have a double mastectomy or not whether their "top surgery" was life or death and that someone who has had cancer could not possibly compare their mastectomy to the suffering and trauma endured by someone who's had to "endure" having breasts and having to fight for an elective mastectomy.

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I've planted pink and green gooseberries (the pink ones are really nice) and also jocastaberries, which are a gooseberry blackcurrent cross and a few different sorts of currents. They look very pretty. Where I live you can't buy currents or gooseberries so they are a bit of a novelty.

I'm not much of a poster living in a different time one but don't want to lose the discussions and would like to help if possible. Will PM for the details of the new board. Have been a member here for about 15 years (just renamed myself) and have struggled with virtually every upgrade so I don't really want to learn how to post somewhere else, but it seems important to work out a battle plan and discussion is needed for that.

Ridiculous that long time members cannot discuss important issues but new goaders are apparently welcome. That to me is absolutely not in the 'spirit' of mumsnet.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269698-Morgane-Oger-is-campaigning-to-shut-down-a-rape-crisis-centre-in

I’d appreciate a link to the other place too.

Ridiculous that long time members cannot discuss important issues but new goaders are apparently welcome. That to me is absolutely not in the 'spirit' of mumsnet.

Agreed.

My teen DD has just informed me that transwomen (shit, I can't remember if there should be a space there or not?!?! Colour me confused and not goady please MNHQ) started Pride.

I'm old, that's not the version of gay history that I grew up with, that my gay friends grew up with... please can someone more knowledgeable enlighten me? I fear googling won't help me to discern the actual facts... I mean, even Stonewall has become a dodgy source of facts...

i have personally witness them goad breast cancer survivors on Twitter

Its at times like these i am relieved im not on twitter...i would seriously lose my shit, and im already concerned for my blood pressure

I am quite good with the ignore poster button...which is good because my default is to think 'fucking scum sucking cunt' very loudly. It wouldnt end well if i typed it

to everyone affected by deletions and goady mo fo's

nocis

Someone will be on with a link in a minute, but my understanding is that the transwomen who 'started' it have both said that they werent there

Ridiculous that long time members cannot discuss important issues but new goaders are apparently welcome. That to me is absolutely not in the 'spirit' of mumsnet.

Agreed.

Ridiculous that long time members cannot discuss important issues but new goaders are apparently welcome. That to me is absolutely not in the 'spirit' of mumsnet.

GF at most get a slap on the wrist, long term members get strikes.

Rufustheyawningreindeer

I did write something to that effect to them.

I got a 7 day ban for it while they happily goad away 😐

Transgender advocates are posthumously transitioning historical figures.
Dale Spender wrote a book called Women of Ideas and What Men Have Done to Them that only goes back as far as Aphra Behn.
Religious scholars sometimes talk and write about the forced transitioning of women as a means of erasure in the Bible, both old and New Testament.
Erasing women from the historical record is an ancient tradition.

spontaneousgiventime

My teen DD has just informed me that transwomen (shit, I can't remember if there should be a space there or not?!?! Colour me confused and not goady please MNHQ) started Pride

This is not true it's a sinister rewriting of history.