Why is misgendering a big deal?

[FortunateCookie]

Hope someone can help because I’m really trying to understand why not affirming someone’s identity is that big of a deal.
I understand that it’s polite to go along with whatever someone’s chosen gender identity is, but I can’t believe that it’s actually a big problem if you don’t?
Surely if your friends and family accept your identity, it doesn’t matter if someone at work doesn’t?
Would it really make someone suicidal?
Do any of the trans organisations say why it is so important?
I just don’t get it.

It’s the Feminist board you muppet

Funny that you are not getting many feminists agreeing with you here, on the feminist board

Are you going to demand that we do feminism your way too before you 'answer questions'.

It must be hard being you.

Theyre the wrong feminists Gromit!!

I have no problem correctly sexing people

Lol, epic!

I don't know what kind of ladies you've been hanging out with, but real Ladies don't go around randomly sexing people! clutches pearls

Also, as you well know plenty of feminists agree with me

Would those be them blokey ones...like the ones who wear 'this is what a feminist looks like' t-shirts and then campaign to close down refuges if they don't let men in...even though they never campaigned for the refuges for actual cunty type women in the first place?

Yeah well, there is a reason for that. Lol.

What dominates here is gender critical feminism. That's just one branch of feminism and, for many women, not a very comfortable one.

Women who are not gender critical are a still feminists. In this echo chamber that gets lost - but it is true.

Ha ha!

So you're not going to answer questions unless we obey.

When you are called out on that, you say that we are the only type of feminist to refuse to obey, because you know other feminists who are very compliant.

All your posts are characterised by something that is often associated with MRAs. A constant, let's call it finessing (or rewording), of a situation so that it becomes hypothetical.

The reality is you are on a feminist board, telling women that unless they obey you, you won't engage.

You can rework that into a fiction that says something else, as much as you like.

We see you.

Didn't even know what radical feminism was until I heard of Lila Perry and the magic miniskirt.

'Gender critical' is probably a term that women started to use because they are a bit taken aback about being called in your usage TERF by you lot and then asked 'What the fuck is a radical feminist?'.

Many women, including me, would have loosely defined themseves as femininst but not have had any idea of categories of feminism until the madness of trans activism reared its misogynist head, and started to say things like, oh, for example "When you ladies start using correct pronouns and correctly gendering and sexing people, I will answer questions."

Fuck that.

Again. No.

Clear?

I've always defined myself as a feminist and I'm a radical feminist because I understand women's liberation as being based on our oppression as a sex. But that was the only sort of feminism that was about in my childhood and adolescence.

The new choosey choice feminism doesn't qualify as feminism at all to my mind because it lacks any intellectual underpinnings. It's feminism to please men - lap dancing is sooo liberating for me and suchlike bollocks

"When you ladies start using correct pronouns and correctly gendering and sexing people, I will answer questions."

Fuck that.

Again. No.

Clear?

Exactly. I often can't work out if it's self deception, or blind arrogance. But very many women who would never have considered themselves particularly feminist, and certainly not radical feminists, are holding the opinion that you can't change sex and men do not belong women's prisons or sport. They are consequently rather shocked that this makes them radical anything.

You will often get a poster telling us we are transphobic, but agreeing, in the very next post, that sport is a different issue, of course, and yes rapists should not go to a female prison, obviously.

It's rather a blinding shock when they realise that this makes them a gender critical radical feminist, and a 'terf'.

The self-deception/arrogant part refers to men who fondly imagine that most women agree with them.

TRAs bully women because they have an uncontrollable obsession with our female validation. Not much use telling the world that TWAW when the women say fuck that shit.

Going by personal experience and from comments on mainstream news sites where issues like prisons and women's sports are reported, men have absolutely no compunction at getting straight to the point. Bunch of cheats/perverts is the most common male reaction.

You said that you wouldn't answer questions until we complied with your requests that we use pronouns and gender descriptors that meet your requirements.

We refused to do so and explained why. Yet you are still here and choosing to engage but without answering question. Why? Why pass up an opportunity to explain the foundations of your beliefs and take advantage of a (so-called) teachable moment?

I find it really odd. It is reminiscent of a child saying they are leaving because they don't want to play the game anymore, yet sitting on the sidelines and offering up commentary on the remaining players.

Gibberty is harassing women. The objective is revenge.

Which one are we supposed to do now, correct gendering or sexing? I can't keep up with the constant demands.

If we are the “wrong” type of feminists then why not go and find the right ones ( ie the handmaidens that will fawn all over you) and engage them instead
I’m sure they will be more compliant

Indeed hopping. There are 'feminists' out there who will want to talk about makeup and hair flicking and how fabulous Gibb looks.

upstart we are supposed to do whichever we are told by the menz

All feminist are critical of gender because gender expectations and roles reduce women's opportunities.

Any feminist who claims not to be gender critical is lying to you. Again.

I think Gibberty has a trans partner, and Gibberty is trying to desperately square the circle because she loves her partner.

I don't care Cookie, Just sick of him/her coming on and insisting that women comply with their demands. Who the fuck do they think they are?

I have less tolerance for behaviours such as co-dependency than I used to. They cause too much harm to everyone.

I hear you Assigned. Just wanted to give another POV that the tenacity and obtuseness is not necessarily about hate.

Gibberty has explained that she is here to take revenge on women. The male partner came here beforehand to advise us we were all bad people. When we didn't immediately apologise and go home this person's narcissistic state caused them harm. Women who don't soothe narcissistic men are bad people in Gibberty's mind and so must be harassed in retaliation.