In reaction to the Government sex segregation Petition response, M&S are finally reconsidering their position on their sexist unsafe and undignified policy.

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I have had several discussions with M&S who were very much digging their heels in and putting male feelings ahead of sex segregation exemptions in the EA2010. I had another discussion with them today and they are finally looking at their policy again.

Please take action and message them your feminist concerns.

Further discussion www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3269463-Government-response-to-the-petition

Including links to a trans woman who admitted to throwing clothes in an aggressive act, at female staff in a woman's changing room.

"My kids want some Percy Pigs before Jamie Oliver snatches them away."

If your kids are sons they will need to use the male changing room, of course

It's a made up problem for trans people, specifically trans'women'. No reason they can't use the men's, or campaign for third spaces. Plenty plenty options.

M and S Twitter have just explicitly stated that they are not changing this policy and that trans people are free to use whichever changing space they feel is most appropriate for them

Interesting article about Debenhams in Glasgow today. A transwoman was refused entry into women’s changing room, but then complained and now they’re apparently “not gender specific” (They really are - I’ve shopped here lots) www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-transgender-woman-left-tears-12652629

In English law a woman cannot rape. The crime of rape is forced penetration with a penis.

Then this happened...

twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1004452220023304192

you know women can rape as well?

Actually, they can't.
And they don't.

Rape is defined as requiring a penis in UK law.

Try harder.

Nothing says "Fox is not from around here" like them not knowing the rape laws in their jurisdiction are not universal laws.

Err no.. Here's the act, its any of them points, so a digit pentening and so on can count as rape, but in terms of a conviction probelry more down the line of sexual assault.

They don't at the same massive rate Fox plus we can fight them off easier

@thebewilderness I know the laws rather well seeing its my job to. Also its not "Fox is not from around here" its 'foxonsecurity' which sums it up really

The Executive office said they are reviewing policy with the relevant teams. In the meantime my guess is that current policy will remain.

but a manly flat chest and a beard is just not trying to be a woman - it's something else. What is it then? Who are they?

A feminine man? Nowt wrong with that - if masculinity weren’t so narrow and constrained (by men policing other men through violence) then the non-binaries wouldn’t have to pretend they were revolutionary social justice warriors.

Gender roles, and masculinity in particular, are the problem here.

Definition of rape

Ok that's cool. Bye Marks, bye Debs.
Topshop
Lush
Primark

(I buy all the Christmas and birthday presents in my house and I have quite a lot of money)

To be fair I wouldn't go to primark anyway that's a symbolic boycott

@OneHourTwentyFourMinutes and I'm guessing it will remain, the policy works, its in line with the law (EA2010), and if someone was spying on someone in the changing rooms and so on then it gets dualt with in line of law. Like anything really. Don't see what the fuss is about. Trans people want to try clothes on, and to buy clothes. Just like anyone.

Why do male bodied people want inbto our changing rooms anyway

Totally with you Pratchet. Any store that will not guarantee me security, privacy and dignity will not get a penny out of me.

Because they are female? gets popcorn

Fox - doesn't the act you posted contradict what you say? It says rape requires a penis.

Women in the U.K. can't commit rape but they can be charged with it. E.g. a woman holding down a person while they are penetrated with a penis, without their consent, could be charged with rape even though they did not commit the actual rape themselves.
Hubby is a sex crimes police officer so he's well versed (unfortunately) in the legislation

It doesn't no, if any of them points are proven then it's rape, but its comes down to evendance so much more likely charged as sexual assault and so on

@BarrackerBarmer my cult? Well I don't have a cult, but um thanks then?