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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Planning my wedding as a non-binary bride"

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53rdWay · 06/06/2018 07:55

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/05/planning-my-wedding-as-a-non-binary-bride

"When I walk down the aisle this time, in front of every person who knows me, it will be as someone who lives in their body. Not a bride on a cake, but as myself, a person who is too complicated for the simple rituals that are the pattern of our lives."

Unlike the rest of us, who are 100% cool with compulsory femininity and aren't nearly complicated enough to be more than cake-decoration brides!

It's annoying but I feel more sorry for her than anything. This, e.g.:

“I’m in a body that isn’t saying the right things. It’s not me,” I explained. “I feel like I’m wearing a rubber suit all the time and nobody can see me inside it.”

Welcome to living with a female body under patriarchy! Join the feminists who are trying to bring the system down for everybody, not just the few special souls who are Not Like The Other Girls.

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SomeDyke · 06/06/2018 17:39

Anyone know what film that Katharine Hepburn picture I used was from? Because according to this Vanity Fair article:
www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/05/katharine-hepburn-style-pants
She was pretty out there..........

AHA, Sylvia Scarlett, 1935, where she was disguised as a boy, hence the 'going into the ladies looking suspicious' shot.

OrchidInTheSun · 06/06/2018 17:51

do straight men make out they're gay? Or do they just say they're queer which appears to be totally meaningless)

MuddyForestWalks · 06/06/2018 17:54

Doubt it orchid. Can't think of a male artist singing "I kissed a boy", à la Katy Perry, or smooching other men on stage, like Madonna/Britney.

PositivelyPERF · 06/06/2018 17:56

I wore a Grace Kelly style dress, when I got married 25yrs ago. I was a non binary bride? Well, who’d a thunk it? Yay. I’m speshil. preens self

AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/06/2018 17:58

So what I read was bla bla ME bla ME bla bla bla MEEEER bla bla (husband) bla MEMEMEME I'M soooooo unique! Me I MR bla bla dress bla special.

Why is this a story? Isn't every bloody wedding outfit choice a trial by indecision, uncertainty and fear of choosing the 'wrong' thing?

God, the things that pass as articles these days. And you can't even excuse her for being really young and daft.

nooka · 06/06/2018 18:12

I wore my mum's wedding dress. dd plans to wear it too. It's a beautiful plain silk dress made in the 50s. My mother is very traditionally minded. I am a feminist. My dd is bisexual and given her dating history I suspect much more likely to marry a woman than a man (although she'll have more men to choose from so I could be wrong about that). All the dress says about us is that we like that style (and have similar body shapes).

Love that black velvet dress Lass posted a photo of. Fabulous. Black velvet seems much more of a statement than a very feminine elegant white dress. I can't imagine the writers guests thought anything very much. She obviously missed a trick there. Although it's very much in line with the 'aren't I brave and wonderful making a statement that cost me absolutely nothing' ethos.

IndominusRex · 06/06/2018 18:17

I wore a plain blue dress with glittery pink wellies for my wedding. What does that make me?

MuddyForestWalks · 06/06/2018 18:20

IndominusRex it makes you fabulous

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 18:25

I think I realised every individual was unique (including myself) at about the age of 7. I also realised I was no more or less unique than everyone else.
I also wore a simple dress, I'm not into anything more. Can I have my agonising and introspection now do you think or is it a bit late?

hazeyjane · 06/06/2018 18:26

Blimey Charlie, what a simpering, steaming pile of belly button gazing horse shite. I have read more insightful writing in Take A Break.

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 18:26

Rex did you agonise and compare yourself to the masses? Did you know your name means king, do you maybe identify as other-than-woman? We're here for you lad.

MuddyForestWalks · 06/06/2018 18:27

Given that the author is belly aching over riding a bike when she was 7 I would say there's no expiry date on navel gazing stealth

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 18:29

Great. We'll you see it all started when my mother didn't wear make up.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/06/2018 18:31

Self-indulgent twaddle.

It is surely a brand new and special and different thing for anyone to want a wedding that is personal in any way to them. Everyone else wants it to be an generic and such as possible with no individuality at all. We all aspire to be 'cake topper brides' surely Hmm

AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/06/2018 18:33

Sparkly wellies? We need a photo of that!

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 18:48

Never mind her sparkly wellies what about MEEEEEEEEE

Floisme · 06/06/2018 18:50

Well I'm glad she wrote it cos otherwise we wouldn't have had a thread of lovely Grace Kelly outfits. Thank you Lass (and others too I think - sorry, so many I've not checked). Here's my favourite, from Rear Window. I am straight but when she takes off that jacket, it's like an electric shock.

I like her character in that film too - sharp as a tack but he writes her off because she's into clothes. I know that feeling.

"Planning my wedding as a non-binary bride"
"Planning my wedding as a non-binary bride"
AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/06/2018 18:50

You are truly a yoooo-neek and vair speshul seahorsey.

Floisme · 06/06/2018 18:51

But what I really want to know is, does Uncle Brian take commissions?

IndominusRex · 06/06/2018 18:58

Stealth how dare you call me 'her'?!

AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/06/2018 19:00

I'm just going to call everyone 'it' or 'thing' (especially cute little babies). That couldn't possibley offend anyone could it?

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 19:02

Ah shit sorry rexy. Good dog.

chickenpox100 · 06/06/2018 19:02

And you wonder why people aren't more supportive of feminists.

Vipers.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/06/2018 19:03

What 'people'?

StealthPolarBear · 06/06/2018 19:06

So most non feminists wouldn't think this to be a pile of crap? More fool them.