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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Planning my wedding as a non-binary bride"

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53rdWay · 06/06/2018 07:55

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/05/planning-my-wedding-as-a-non-binary-bride

"When I walk down the aisle this time, in front of every person who knows me, it will be as someone who lives in their body. Not a bride on a cake, but as myself, a person who is too complicated for the simple rituals that are the pattern of our lives."

Unlike the rest of us, who are 100% cool with compulsory femininity and aren't nearly complicated enough to be more than cake-decoration brides!

It's annoying but I feel more sorry for her than anything. This, e.g.:

“I’m in a body that isn’t saying the right things. It’s not me,” I explained. “I feel like I’m wearing a rubber suit all the time and nobody can see me inside it.”

Welcome to living with a female body under patriarchy! Join the feminists who are trying to bring the system down for everybody, not just the few special souls who are Not Like The Other Girls.

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53rdWay · 06/06/2018 20:21

I gave up on Supernatural when they axed the two interesting female characters in season 3 and had Dean start calling women bitches and sluts all the time. The fandom wars were epic, though. (I believe it got back on track later!... hopefully?)

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Ekphrasis · 06/06/2018 20:26

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

She's not trans or queer.

She's completely NORMAL.

Is this MTV or the Disney channel or something brainwashing kids into thinking woman = specific set of clothes only?

Is this a spoof?

Have this generation ever heard of Katherine Hepburn?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 06/06/2018 20:27

53rd

I hated Jo...well disliked intensely

I liked ellen though

Bella was good

CaptainBrickbeard · 06/06/2018 20:28

This thread has revealed to me that I have a crush on Grace Kelly. I’m so glad as maybe I can be interesting as well now, despite my husband, children and enjoyment of cured meats.

Fluffypinkpyjamas · 06/06/2018 20:33

Ugh. She’s so ridiculous it’s painful.

53rdWay · 06/06/2018 20:34

I liked Ruby. Who was indeed Not Like The Other Girls, what with being a demon and all Grin

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 06/06/2018 20:37

Yeah ruby had her moments Grin

Though i preferred old ruby to new ruby (jareds wife Grin)

SleepIsForTheWeek · 06/06/2018 20:39

Non-binary, queer whatever love but how dare she wish cancer on herself so she can have a mascectomy? Sick nazel gaving fucker.

hazeyjane · 06/06/2018 20:40

She said what?!

AngryAttackKittens · 06/06/2018 21:44

So her issue with slash fiction is that the gay men in it are male rather than young women with blue undercuts?

Doobigetta · 06/06/2018 21:58

"I'm not a gay man, but I know all about appropriation"

Why don't we have one of those useful "crying with laughter" emoticons?

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/06/2018 22:25

But WHY write an article about appropriating gayness when she is herself, in fact, appropriating gayness by writing the article and saying she is gay / trans when she is not?

Well exactly.

I am another who thought the article had a point, but also assumed that the writer was actually a lesbian. Not some straight woman calling herself queer non-binary ffs. She is literally complaining about the exact same thing she is doing

NotBadConsidering · 06/06/2018 22:33

"Not a bride on a cake, but as myself, a person who is too complicated for the simple rituals that are the pattern of our lives."

I see she didn't say no to the "simple ritual" of a bespoke platinum diamond engagement ring Hmm I bet her fiancé was hoping she'd make him take it back and exchange it for poem.

LaSqrrl · 06/06/2018 23:52

I just hope the wedding venue is decked out with the appropriate wall coverings, for the hexadecimal nuptials

"Planning my wedding as a non-binary bride"
AngryAttackKittens · 07/06/2018 00:05

What's the appropriate floral arrangement for a Grace Kelly dress and unchecked narcissism?

Ilikelotsofthinngs · 07/06/2018 00:12

Surely if gender is a spectrum and not a binary, which it is, everyone or most people are non binary?
The whole thing makes my head hurt. It's so so simple but some people want to make it so complicated.

moofolk · 07/06/2018 00:21

Wow. How very unconventional and progressive.

Being an uncool feminist who doesn't feel comfortable with the patriarchal binary epitomised by weddings, I just didn't get married.

Now I realise I could have challenged the gender kyriarchy by wearing a beautiful dress and getting married to a man. If only I'd realised while I was still young and beautiful.

Agrona · 07/06/2018 00:23

I am miffed. So many mentions of Grace Kelly and identity that I now have an ear worm of the Mika song (see below). I do not think he is the only person who can state: "I've gone identity mad."

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GeordieTerf · 07/06/2018 00:25

I don't think this marriage will last long tbh. The only person she cares about is herself.

I wonder if I could write my own word salad piece of the Guardian...

"My Gender-Fluid Graduation Gamble"

"Life as a Non-Binary heterosexual"

I don't think they'd get the satire...

moofolk · 07/06/2018 00:40

@agrona that will be with me all week!

Waddlelikeapenguin · 07/06/2018 00:41

Rufustheyawningreindeer
Anyone seen the episode of supernatural where the winchester brothers realise that someone has been writing slash fiction about them

Grin "they do know we're brothers right?!" Grin

Redsquirrel2 · 07/06/2018 00:44

Hey there trans-phobes, how’s it hanging in the Land of Judgement?

TolchockLovelyInTheLitso · 07/06/2018 01:10

If you can stand it, here's another of her articles, where she is pretty chuffing binary, but engages in acres of tedious navel gazing a little light kink to show yet again how she's not like other girls. Not like them at all. www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/you-dont-have-to-be-pc-in-bed

This baggage couldn't buy a Greggs pasty without thinking she was breaking every boundary in the book. Saints preserve us.

Slapdasherie · 07/06/2018 01:31

And so damn attractive, too, the unlucky cow.

53rdWay · 07/06/2018 06:40

I feel more sorry for her after that. She as good as outright says that she’s grown up dealing with endless male objectification, but now she’s found a way to eroticise it for herself, so now it’s all her personal choice, judgy judgers and she doesn’t have to be PC in bed any more. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em! (Or I guess in this situation, if you can beat ‘em.)

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