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Radical Feminism Banned From Radical Bookfair

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GeordieTerf · 05/06/2018 21:12

medium.com/@GappyTales/radical-feminism-banned-from-radical-bookfair-331f619ae0ce

I hope it's okay to post this here. I'm not sure if Harvey is on here or not?

Basically Harvey was asked to leave the book fair event on Sunday after handing out leaflets on women's rights. They told her she could instead distribute the leaflets outside the hall, which she did for a short while. During that time she was verbally-harassed by a group of people. After which, she was asked to leave!

You could not make this shit up!

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Opheliah · 05/06/2018 21:14

You would not expect anything else at Goldsmiths university.

Imnobody4 · 05/06/2018 21:28

This is disgusting. More and more I keep thinking of Mussolini's squadristas and the Futurists.
Have got L Cohen's song 'the Future' going round in my head .
'Give me absolute control
Over every living soul
And lie beside me baby,
That's an order.

Things are going to slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore'

No one intervenes, there's a special place in hell for the bystander.

MipMipMip · 05/06/2018 22:11

What the he'll is so wrong with worrying about women's safety?!

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 22:13

It threatens male supremacy, control and entitlement.

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 22:18

Wow just read the article ShockAngry

Jeni you are so brave Thanks how could the organisers let that happen and leave you open to it? Fuck Goldsmiths.

DJLippy · 05/06/2018 22:27

Ashamed to admit I went to this university. It was bad enough when I went there it sounds like it's gone on steroids.

I just don't get it. Post-modernism basically say's - all theories are bullshit, there is no such thing as objective truth. So why choose the most batshit theory you can imagine and then say - THIS IS THE TRUTH AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU GET'S THE ROPE.

I always thought I was being taught sceptacism - which is a great approach for intellectual investigation. What is this shit?

thebewilderness · 05/06/2018 22:30

It is shocking to realize how many people think women have too many rights, innit?

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 22:33

So why choose the most batshit theory you can imagine and then say - THIS IS THE TRUTH AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE YOU GET'S THE ROPE.

Because it's a narcissistic power trip. The more outrageous the lies they can force people to swallow, the bigger the transgressive thrill. The violence, abuse and threats they can make against women is a bonus.

Lifesavingorange · 05/06/2018 22:38

They are like the Hitler Youth. Fucking terrifying.

SuitedandBooted · 05/06/2018 22:46

Can this be sent to some journalists - what about Janice Turner, or James Kirkup?

I remember a post from someone who worked with some very deprived groups in the local community. Their work had been totally hijacked by some "woke" Goldsmiths students, whose only concerns were Trans politics, and patronising the people they were supposed to be helping. The project was being ruined, but they didn't care.

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 22:50

There were also the Oxford protestors who were told that they were upsetting a sexual violence survivor group at the same time and asked to stop. They didn't care either and told the venue (a Quaker building) so.

BlackeyedSusan · 05/06/2018 22:51

Oh heck. Some people are so scared their veiwpoint will not stand up to scrutiny that they attempt to surpress it by intimidation.

SuitedandBooted · 05/06/2018 23:01

GeordieTerf
This is the management team at Goldsmith's. Any objection if I send the article, and ask for a comment?

www.gold.ac.uk/our-people/smt/

R0wantrees · 05/06/2018 23:12

Michael Briggs Oxford Sciology Dept.
(concludes)
"I have entered this debate not because I am a feminist but because freedom of speech is one of the highest values of a democratic society, and the basic foundation of university life.
Transgender activism poses a grave threat to freedom of speech. I think of the young MPhil student who had to disguise herself to attend this meeting because she feared the reaction of fellow students. This is the generation that we have educated."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3257819-Michael-Biggs-Sociology-Dept-Oxford-Free-speech-at-Oxford-Do-women-have-the-right-to-meet-to-discuss-legislation

speakingwoman · 05/06/2018 23:23

Very sorry to hear of this

R0wantrees · 05/06/2018 23:29

SuitedandBooted
It may be worth sending a copy to Claire Fox ( R4 Moral Maze, Academy of Ideas ) she has challenged the NUS with regards the wider isssues of denying free speech on university campus.
Discussed with Julia H-B specifically in relation to feminists and Linda Bellos.

The comment about how it was dismissed by an NUS spokesperson as 'not happening and tabloid-fodder' seems relevent.

There are two points when free speech in universities is discussed. The main part with Claire Fox starts at 09:23 but also mentioned earlier at 07:50
talkradio.co.uk/radio/listen-again/1525325400#

from thread re Govt. requiring free speech in universities:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3238951-some-good-news

qumquat · 05/06/2018 23:43

The woman who spoke out against Goldsmiths students taking over her project is I think @debbieloveslife on Twitter and her project is the Deptford People's Project. If anyone is referring this to journalists then definitely worth linking them to her as well.

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 23:53

Really good article with Meghan Murphy for Feminist Current. An interview with Lucy from the Deptford People's Project and other relevant stuff about the problems on the left.

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/03/23/leftist-women-uk-refuse-accept-labours-attempts-silence-critiques-gender-identity/

DJLippy · 06/06/2018 01:05

This is also worth considering www.independent.co.uk/student/news/muslim-students-from-goldsmiths-university-s-islamic-society-heckle-and-aggressively-interrupt-a6760306.html

Ex-Muslim atheist and Labour councillor Maryam Namazi was aggressively heckled by the Goldsmiths Islamic Society after being invited by the Atheist, Secularist and Humanist Society to talk about apostrophe. Guess who wrote a letter in support of the Islamic Societies actions? The feminist society. How very fucking inter-sectional.

LassWiADelicateAir · 06/06/2018 01:13

Spectacular autocorrect there !

I'm guessing Maryam Namaz was talking about apostasy.

DJLippy · 06/06/2018 01:17

Nope Islam just hates grammar innit!

hipsterfun · 06/06/2018 01:19

Ha. As soon as I saw the flyer for the bookfair I knew there’d be nonsense.

Goldsmiths, how have you let this happen? It’s embarrassing. Sort it out.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 06/06/2018 01:45

Wow, Harvey is fantastic Flowers

FoxOnSecurity · 06/06/2018 02:15

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DJLippy · 06/06/2018 02:30

Yeah it was great when they set them on fire as well wasn't it...