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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Magdalen Berns is back!

164 replies

nolongerblue · 04/06/2018 19:11

Hoorah!

OP posts:
TheChampagneGalop · 04/06/2018 19:20

Glad she is OK.

I can't handle the self-centeredness of trans trenders/queer kids.

TerfsUp · 04/06/2018 19:41

Glad to hear that, OP.

Anlaf · 04/06/2018 19:54

Magdalen's eyeroll at 09:30 is wonderful

FermatsTheorem · 04/06/2018 19:57

I love Magdalen. I was alternately laughing out loud and spitting feathers at that video!

So glad she's okay. I hope the guy who came to her aid is also making a good recovery.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 04/06/2018 19:59

Oh god, the bit where she admits that after all this rigmarole, she still hasn't actually worn the men's uniform

Christ

Really, really doesn't come across well, especially not compared to the woman on good morning Britain who actually stood up, sacrifices and tried to achieve something noble rather than indulge herself

LineysMozzieBitesHurt · 04/06/2018 20:01

I really liked Magdalen's piece there.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 04/06/2018 20:01

I love Magdalen Berns.

And the female socialisation behind all the care and anxiety regarding workplace attire, from that trans identifying female is blinding.

boatyardblues · 04/06/2018 20:23

I liked Magdalen’s approach of comparing the vlogger with the PWC receptionist to make the point about fighting the system to the benefit of others. However, employees in the US have fewer employment law protections than here in the UK, especially gay and lesbian employees, and without employment no health insurance. For all its foibles, the NHS and our welfare state do give us more latitude in the “fuck you!” stakes.

TransplantsArePlants · 04/06/2018 20:28

Great video. Excellent

So what we learn from this: if we "disclose our trans identity to HR," we get what we want. Got it.

And OMG, she was 'exposed to some dated language'

It's so sad that she thinks this is the only way to assert herself

TheChampagneGalop · 04/06/2018 20:38

I went to the girl's channel and was greeted by a video called "How some asexuals have sex" Hmm
When will this identity trend be over....?

ChickenMe · 04/06/2018 20:41

I love Magdalen - I really like her voice it's calming for some reason

Poppyred85 · 04/06/2018 20:46

Love Magdalen and glad she’s back! Couldn’t listen to that awful, whiney, self obsessed voice all the way through though. Talk about special snowflake....

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 04/06/2018 20:51

🤣🤣 gosh even more annoying than Dennis Riley. Riley Dennis?

RabidHarpy · 04/06/2018 20:54

Magdalen Berns is brilliant.

Picassospaintbrush · 04/06/2018 20:56

Silly woman. I refused to wear a skirt in the Royal Navy in 1981.

thebewilderness · 04/06/2018 20:57

I am guessing this is the video she was referring to when she said she had completed one before the assault.
I hope she is recovering well.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 04/06/2018 21:01

However, employees in the US have fewer employment law protections than here in the UK

This is true, and a good point. I do some freelance work for an american company, and they were agog at the idea of 1 month's notice for employees - let alone DP who had 6 months in one job and 1year in the next..

However, I think that if you're going to describe yourself as an activist, you probably need to be a little bit more than a bedroom keyboard warrior.

HotRocker · 04/06/2018 21:27

What a self-centred, self congratulating little shit bag.
Nice to see Magdalen back though.

Sarahconnor1 · 04/06/2018 21:51

The eye rollSmile brilliant.

Also the PWC receptionist is doing well fir herself after her sacking
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Thorp

pombear · 04/06/2018 22:04

Magdalen's straight (!)-talking youtube films were what helped me really understand the issue last year (and develop a small crush on Magdalen!) .

She is awesome, and I am eternally both grateful for her speaking out at her own risk to bring some of us to the awareness that we didn't have before, and also ashamed that I do not publically speak out with her right now as shamefully I need to keep my job in an environment that, if I did speak out, may result in me targeted by trans-right activists. The place where I work does not need this type of focus from abusive men. And I also need to keep working as a single mum.

But I feel ashamed that this is stopping me from speaking out with Magdalen.

I do what I can in real life, and all of us can in different ways. Magdalen - if you're reading this, someone asked me who my heroes are recently. I don't have many, but you are one of them.

This is a massive issue of our day for women and girls, and all children whatever sex.

You are amazing.

gendercritter · 04/06/2018 22:08

Gosh Ash is annoying.

I browsed through some of their other videos. This one is one where they come out as non-binary to their mum. It's had 5 million, 400 thousand views. Rapid onset gender disorder is suddenly much easier to understand when you learn that. Ash also talks about having an eating disorder and getting top surgery. As annoying as Ash is, that breaks my heart. No one with an eating disorder should be able to find a surgeon who will remove their breasts.

R0wantrees · 04/06/2018 23:26

I think this video is one that really needs to be shared widely since its more about sexism.
The UK case that Magdalen mentions had wide coverage. As well as the breakfast tv interview, it was discussed on Woman's Hour. The WH discussion led to India Willoughby's comment about women's hairy legs being 'dirty' and Jenni Murray's subsequent article which resulted in her public rebuke by the BBC.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/be-trans-be-proud-but-dont-call-yourself-a-real-woman-frtld7q5c

Are there ways to share it by way of follow up with those journalists who covered the UK case last year or elsewhere on Mumsnet?

Should1stayorshould1go · 04/06/2018 23:31

yup, Ashs apologetic, overthinking female socialisation shines through

ChipsForSupper · 04/06/2018 23:59

Pricelessly brilliant.

pachyderm · 05/06/2018 00:18

Torn between horror at Ash's ludicrous narcissistic nonsense, and pity for her. She's young enough to be my daughter. What on earth is wrong with these young women? A relative of mine had a mastectomy (stop calling it top surgery) because she had cancer; it is painful, unpleasant and messy- there were problems with lymphatic drainage and scarring. Why on earth would a young woman do that for no reason? It's absolutely heartbreaking.